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The Biblical Basis for Being Pro-Choice
Belief Net ^ | 1.23.03 | By Marjorie Brahms Signer

Posted on 01/22/2003 5:58:42 AM PST by meandog

The Bible never mentions abortion, but it does offer support for choice.

By Marjorie Brahms Signer

The 30th anniversary of Roe v. Wade, the U.S. Supreme Court decision legalizing abortion, has created a huge amount of misinformation about the nature of being pro-choice. Starting with President Bush’s new proclamation of National Sanctity of Human Life Day, the purpose seems to be to portray those who are pro-choice as godless and heartless. But being pro-choice is firmly grounded in the Bible.

Who is pro-choice and religious? Denominations with official and long-standing pro-choice positions include the Presbyterian Church (USA), the Episcopal Church, the United Methodist Church, the United Church of Christ, the Unitarian Universalist Association of Congregations, and Reform and Conservative Judaism. These organizations have a diversity of views about abortion and recognize it as a morally complex decision that must be made by the person most affected--the woman.

Among religious groups, the pro-choice position is nuanced, recognizing that most people believe abortion--as well as bearing children—are matters for individual conscience, not government or religious mandate. Pro-choice denominations don’t seek to impose their views on others or to make them law. They recognize that in our pluralistic society, politicians must not be allowed to impose laws about childbearing based on any particular belief about when life begins. The notion that life begins at the moment of conception is a belief held by some, but not all, religious groups.

In fact, the Bible never mentions abortion and does not deal with the question of when life begins. Genesis 2:7 (God “breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living being”) refers to the specific, unique event of the creation of Adam out of the earth. It says nothing about the process of conception, pregnancy, and birth.

The Book of Exodus clearly indicates that the fetus does not have the same legal status as a person (Chapter 21:22-23). That verse indicates that if a man pushes a pregnant woman and she then miscarries, he is required only to pay a fine. If the fetus were considered a full person, he would be punished more severely as though he had taken a life.

Religions have many different--and changing--tenets about abortion. Some oppose abortion in all cases because they believe human life begins when an egg and sperm meet. They hold this belief even though medical science defines pregnancy as beginning with the implantation of the fertilized egg. Others believe abortion must be allowed in cases of rape and incest. Some believe abortion is required in certain circumstances, such as when a woman’s life is in danger.

Many religions believe the decision must be the woman’s because she is the person most affected.

Christians and Jews agree that all life is sacred--the life of a woman as well as the potential life of a fetus. Many Protestant Christians emphasize the New Testament’s teaching of the priesthood of all believers, meaning that everyone has direct access to God and therefore the ability to do God’s will.

The Bible tells us that God acts within human beings to set us free and enable us to assume responsibility for ourselves. If we make wrong choices, God forgives us. Humans, by the grace of God, have developed medicine, surgery, and psychiatry to prolong and enhance life. These same medical approaches can be chosen to prolong or enhance the life of a woman for whom a specific pregnancy would be dangerous.

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To: meandog
These organizations have a diversity of views about abortion and recognize it as a morally complex decision that must be made by the person most affected--the woman.

How stupid and heartless can one be? Who is affected more, a person who walks away and goes on with their life, or one who dies in horrible agony by being torn limb from limb or having their skin burned off by a saline solution? Some "choice", that.

21 posted on 01/22/2003 6:30:12 AM PST by chimera
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To: meandog
After all, the compassionate God wants you to kill your unborn children if it would make you unhappy to carry them to term.

What tripe.

22 posted on 01/22/2003 6:32:12 AM PST by Tom Bombadil
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To: meandog; ThirstyMan; xsmommy
This reading of Exodus is ridiculous on its face and shows that the author is completely unfamiliar with the Scriptures.

The punishment in Exodus for killing the unborn child IS ABOUT THE SAME as killing an adult.

(1) Exodus 21:12 says that killing a man on purpose requires the death penalty.

(2) BUT Exodus 21:13 says that killing a man by accident does not merit death, but the killer has to move to another community.

(3) Exodus 21:22 discusses the ACCIDENTAL killing of an unborn child during a fight between two men. Rather than moving, it requires a fine.

In fact, one could argue that in a nomadic society of shepherds, moving is a minor inconvenience while a potentially substantial money fine determined by judges would be a harsher punishment.

23 posted on 01/22/2003 6:35:13 AM PST by wideawake
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To: meandog
God is pro-choice, but not in the light that the pro-abortion groups put Him in.

He wishes us to make the right choice. Contrary to Calvinism, God gave us free will.

While is pro-choice, He is also pro-justice. He gave us the free will to murder, but also the ability for our governments to impose penalties for doing so. He expects just laws from governments that both protect and provide punishment.

There both temporal and eternal consequences to our actions. Free will isn't a ticket to do what one want's and to get away with it here and in the afterlife.

>>They recognize that in our pluralistic society, politicians must not be allowed to impose laws about childbearing based on any particular belief about when life begins.

It's a scientific fact that life begins at conception. No politician must be allowed to impose laws about childbearing based on the rejection of this fact.

If religious views are justification for the taking of a life, and we live in a pluralistic society, then why can't the Satanists be allowed to make living sacrafices? Why can't they sacrafice some Unitarians?

>> The notion that life begins at the moment of conception is a belief held by some, but not all, religious groups.

This has no bearing in the issue. Weather or not a religion recognizes the scientific fact that life begins at conception has no bearing on the legality of abortion.

These religions impose their moral view on the unborn of the nation. Their disregard for scientific fact and the right to life helps to foster the culture of death.

In a pluralistic society, they have the right to their beliefs, but they can't impose these beliefs in a way that supports the mercyless slaughter of the innocent.

To argue that God is pro-choice in they way they try is absurd. Another jewel in the crown of protestanism.

PS. One more thing, what OJ Simpson did is simply between his God and himself, isn't it? What Hitler did was between God and himself since Jews were really sub-human? etc..
24 posted on 01/22/2003 6:35:27 AM PST by 1stFreedom
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To: meandog
Presbyterian Church (USA), the Episcopal Church, the United Methodist Church, the United Church of Christ, the Unitarian Universalist Association of Congregations

See Protestantism.

1. Sola Scriptura ("Bible Alone")

The belief in the Bible as the sole source of faith is unhistorical, illogical, fatal to the virtue of faith, and destructive of unity.

[John 17:23 "May they be brought to complete unity to let the world know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me."]

It is unhistorical. No one denies the fact that Christ and the Apostles founded the Church by preaching and exacting faith in their doctrines. No book told as yet of the Divinity of Christ, the redeeming value of His Passion, or of His coming to judge the world; these and all similar revelations had to be believed on the word of the Apostles, who were, as their powers showed, messengers from God. And those who received their word did so solely on authority. As immediate, implicit submission of the mind was in the lifetime of the Apostles the only necessary token of faith, there was no room whatever for what is now called private judgment. This is quite clear from the words of Scripture: "Therefore, we also give thanks to God without ceasing: because, that when you had received of us the word of the hearing of God, you received it not as the word of men, but (as it is indeed) the word of God" (I Thessalonians 2:13). The word of hearing is received through a human teacher and is believed on the authority of God, who is its first author (cf. Romans 10:17). But, if in the time of the Apostles, faith consisted in submitting to authorized teaching, it does so now; for the essence of things never changes and the foundation of the Church and of our salvation is immovable.

Again, it is illogical to base faith upon the private interpretation of a book. For faith consists in submitting; private interpretation consists in judging. In faith by hearing the last word rests with the teacher; in private judgment it rests with the reader, who submits the dead text of Scripture to a kind of post-mortem examination and delivers a verdict without appeal: he believes in himself rather than in any higher authority. But such trust in one's own light is not faith. Private judgment is fatal to the theological virtue of faith. John Henry Newman says "I think I may assume that this virtue, which was exercised by the first Christians, is not known at all amongst Protestants now; or at least if there are instances of it, it is exercised toward those, I mean their teachers and divines, who expressly disclaim that they are objects of it, and exhort their people to judge for themselves" ("Discourses to Mixed Congregations", Faith and Private Judgment). And in proof he advances the instability of Protestant so-called faith: "They are as children tossed to and fro and carried along by every gale of doctrine. If they had faith they would not change. They look upon the simple faith of Catholics as if unworthy the dignity of human nature, as slavish and foolish". Yet upon that simple, unquestioning faith the Church was built up and is held together to this day.

Where absolute reliance on God's word, proclaimed by his accredited ambassadors, is wanting, i.e. where there is not the virtue of faith, there can be no unity of Church. It stands to reason, and Protestant history confirms it. The "unhappy divisions", not only between sect and sect but within the same sect, have become a byword. They are due to the pride of private intellect, and they can only be healed by humble submission to a Divine authority.


25 posted on 01/22/2003 6:35:53 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: meandog
Leviticus 17:11 says that "the life of the flesh is in the blood"

When does a fetus have blood, for where there is blood flowing, there is life.

26 posted on 01/22/2003 6:37:05 AM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: Judith Anne; TonyRo76; scottinoc; calebjosh
Please see my post 23 for how these people twist Scripture by decontextualizing it and misrepresenting what the text actually discusses.
27 posted on 01/22/2003 6:37:44 AM PST by wideawake
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To: TonyRo76
everyone has direct access to God and therefore the ability to do God’s will

Except for those 30,000,000+ that have been murdered.

28 posted on 01/22/2003 6:39:08 AM PST by A2J (If all else fails, blame it on someone else.)
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To: TonyRo76
Somewhere in prophecy scriptures, there is one about "throwing their children in the fire". I have seen it years ago ... the minister said it was a pagan/heathen practice of tossing a child back and forth over a fire in some ritual.

Looking back, I think it was a prophesy of what happens in an abortion clinic.

May God save our nation!

g

29 posted on 01/22/2003 6:39:24 AM PST by Geezerette (... but young at heart!)
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To: meandog
"The Book of Exodus clearly indicates that the fetus does not have the same legal status as a person (Chapter 21:22-23). That verse indicates that if a man pushes a pregnant woman and she then miscarries, he is required only to pay a fine. If the fetus were considered a full person, he would be punished more severely as though he had taken a life."

This is completely misquoted (it always is by the pro-aborts), and is certainly NOT the Biblical position.

The verse indicates that if an accidental miscarriage occurs, then a fine is paid IF (AND ONLY IF) no harm comes to the child -- i.e., that the "miscarriage" results in the safe birth of a live child.

However, if "mischief" follows (that's a King James version oddity word: read that as "harm"), then there is a penalty commensurate with the harm done to the child -- eye for eye, life for life. In other words, the whole context of these verses is specifically intended to discuss Mosaic Law for harm done to a fetus -- it does not involve the woman here (that's covered in other related verses earlier in the book). The pro-aborts point to this passage and mistakenly apply the verses to the pregnant woman.

In other words, the very passage they point out to argue that God thinks little of the fetus proves exactly the opposite: a growing baby had full legal status in ancient Israeli law!

30 posted on 01/22/2003 6:39:39 AM PST by alancarp
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To: scottinoc
Wow, so you can pretty much decide for yourself what's right and wrong. That's some squishy theology.

No. God has pretty well made clear in the scriptures what's right and wrong. And he still works through man's conscience as well.

Yes. Everyman has the responsibility to develop the discernment between right and wrong, between what is God's will and what is not. Anyone can go and declare something to be right (and many do) that is against God's will, but that doesn't make it right.

That doesn't make a "squishy" theology. That just puts the responsibility where it's always been. On the individual. The priest or preacher said "x is ok", absolves nobody of guilt.

31 posted on 01/22/2003 6:39:48 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: hobbes1
Right, and I apologize for perhaps bungling this as I don't have a Bible with me, but is there not a passage where either Jesus Himself (or was it his cousin John the Baptist?) leapt for joy within the womb? Or at least where His / his stirring was felt by Mary (or Elizabeth?)? Somebody who still has a memory, please help me out here.
32 posted on 01/22/2003 6:39:53 AM PST by Stingray51
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To: smith288
"Ah, yes. The denominations famous for picking and choosing Bible doctrine that isnt offensive to the 2003 PC crowd and calling the rest "out of date".

Their judgement will be harsh...

Deu 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, [that] I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

33 posted on 01/22/2003 6:42:16 AM PST by hope
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To: Stingray51
Luke.

1:41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:
1:42 And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.
1:43 And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?
1:44 For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.

34 posted on 01/22/2003 6:43:32 AM PST by hobbes1
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To: Stingray51
That'd be Luke 1:41
35 posted on 01/22/2003 6:47:27 AM PST by ThirstyMan
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To: hobbes1
Try Luke 1: 26-38: The angel said to Mary, "Greetings, favored one! The Lord is with you ... Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. You will conceive in your womb and bear a son ..." Good thing it was about 2000 years before Margaret Sanger.

I've always found this one of the most crushing arguments agains Biblical support of abortion. If pro-choice Christians truly believe the Biblical account of Christ's conception and birth, then they have to believe that Mary would have been within her rights to have aborted the Holy Child, as He was no more than a part of her body.

Luke's account that Elizabeth's baby (John the Baptist) "leaped in her womb at the sound of Mary's greeting" (Luke 1:44) doesn't help the pro-choice argument, either.

36 posted on 01/22/2003 6:48:58 AM PST by Sans-Culotte
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To: meandog
The Book of Exodus clearly indicates that the fetus does not have the same legal status as a person (Chapter 21:22-23). That verse indicates that if a man pushes a pregnant woman and she then miscarries, he is required only to pay a fine.

I wonder why the writer of this article didn't include verses 23-25 as well?

22 "If men who are fighting hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman's husband demands and the court allows. 23 But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.

37 posted on 01/22/2003 6:51:23 AM PST by Texican72
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To: Sans-Culotte
Luke's account that Elizabeth's baby (John the Baptist) "leaped in her womb at the sound of Mary's greeting" (Luke 1:44) doesn't help the pro-choice argument, either.

And that's just the beginning. Sarah, Samson's mother (I don't remember her name off the top of my head), Joseph's mother in Genesis - all women who were thought to be infertile. Moses was adopted. There is far more biblical support for life than not.
38 posted on 01/22/2003 6:53:10 AM PST by Desdemona
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