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Very Interesting.
1 posted on 01/21/2003 3:26:34 PM PST by vannrox
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2 posted on 01/21/2003 3:28:38 PM PST by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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That's not a star chart.

That's the first Sylvester Stallone movie and those are arrow notches on the back.
3 posted on 01/21/2003 3:29:18 PM PST by DannyTN
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I'm unconvinced.

Any representation of the constellation would have some indication of the three stars of the belt, plus the sword.

These publicity-hounds are forgetting that just because we think of it as a hunter, doesn't mean that other cultures would. Moreover, many stars move noticeably over tens of thousands of years (I'm unsure about Orion, but I recall that the Big Dipper looked quite different a couple tens of thousands of years ago.)
4 posted on 01/21/2003 3:41:22 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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Bump
6 posted on 01/21/2003 3:46:16 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Tag Line Service Center: FREE Tag Line with Every Monthly Donation to FR. Get Yours. Inquire Within)
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To: vannrox
Between his legs hangs what could be a sword

Hmm, now what else could possibly be hanging between his legs?

Sounds like ancient man sure had a lot of useless time on his hands. And why does every artifact from olden days always have to be interpreted as involving religious rites? Maybe in 32,000 years scientists will interpret Britney Spears Pepsi ads as being demented rituals to the moon goddess. Or wait, are they?

7 posted on 01/21/2003 5:00:50 PM PST by KellyAdmirer
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When all you have is a hammer, everything begins to look like a nail. When all you have are star charts, everything begins to look like stars. This "scientist's" theory has more holes in it than an Iraqi Republican Guard tank.

Dr Rappenglueck says:   "[86] is the number of days that must be subtracted from a year to equal the average number of days of a human gestation."

Baloney. Normal human gestation is 263-266 days, meaning that the number of notches should have been 99-102 not 86 if the good doctors interpretation were correct.

Dr Rappenglueck says:   "[86] is also the number of days that one of Orion's two prominent stars, Betelguese, is visible."

Baloney. If we neglect twilight, Betelguese would be visible for about 180 days per year. When considering the effect of twilight, there are three standards that could be used: Civil, Nautical and Astronomical twilight. Astronomical is the most rigorous of these and is defined as where the sun is 18º below the horizon. Subtracting 18º from both horizons means that Betelguese is visible for 146 days per year, not the 86 days that the doctor claims.

Dr Rappenglueck says:   "The 'sword' on the ivory tablet also corresponds to a famous and well-know feature that can be seen in Orion."

Baloney. No metal working = no swords and the Bronze Age was still 30,000 years in the future. Moreover, the concept that the stars in question in Orion might represent a sword is entirely a cultural presumption and it begs credibility to presume that two independent cultures would interpret the various star patterns the same way (especially when they didn't have swords).

Dr Rappenglueck says:   "Dr Rappenglueck allowed for this effect by using a computer program to wind back the sky."

Baloney. If the Orion constellation had matched an overlay of the figure on the ivory carving, you can bet your bottom dollar that would be photo number one in this article. Or at the very least, the good doctor would have claimed that it had matched up. 32,000 years equals a hell of a lot of proper motion and the shape of the Orion constellation would more likely correspond to road kill than a standing man with a "sword".

Typical BBC crap.

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17 posted on 01/21/2003 8:16:36 PM PST by Boot Hill (Ctrl) (Alt) (del)
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'Oldest star chart' found...it wasn't under Hillarys' coat was it ?????????
18 posted on 01/21/2003 8:58:42 PM PST by exmoor
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The very politically correct Evolutionists at the Museum of Natural History in New York City have opened a show called "The First Europeans" about 400,000-year-old "grandparents" of Neanderthals, which the museum president claims were cannibals.

Apparently it doesn't matter to these scholars that the first humans did not show up in Europe until about 40,000 years ago-- 360,000 years later. But is sounds good.

26 posted on 01/22/2003 8:04:38 PM PST by Temple Owl
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archaeologists have suggested that the man-like figure
could be praying or dancing, or be a half-man


28 posted on 01/22/2003 10:18:50 PM PST by Slyfox
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Have you guys seen this?

Pretty cool stuff!!
29 posted on 01/22/2003 10:30:13 PM PST by Aric2000 ($5 a month, if I can afford it, I know that all of you can.)
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35 posted on 03/24/2005 7:51:21 AM PST by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Sunday, March 13, 2005.)
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Yup yup. That's 'Orion' for sure.

I'd recognize it anywhere. /sarc
38 posted on 03/24/2005 7:55:24 AM PST by evets (God bless President Bush and VP Cheney)
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39 posted on 03/24/2005 7:56:24 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (Repeal the NFA of '34! the GCA of '68! and the '86 ban!)
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42 posted on 09/21/2009 4:40:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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43 posted on 11/14/2010 8:38:34 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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