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White teachers flee black schools
Christian Science Monitor ^ | January 21, 2003 | Patrik Jonsson

Posted on 01/21/2003 2:38:44 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Certain neighborhoods in the South are weathering a new version of an old phenomenon: white flight.

Across the region, white, often middle-class, teachers are leaving schools dominated by African-Americans almost as fast as they arrive. Many are moving to school districts with smaller populations of blacks, new studies show.

Critics see the exodus as a new form of segregation, encouraged by court rulings that no longer enforce racial diversity. But teachers say that cultural and economic barriers, not racial ones, are fueling the trend in a region where more than 40 percent of the public school population is black.

At the very least, the growing shortage of white educators is creating a dilemma for black schools from Picayune County, Miss., to Decatur, Ga. Right now, there aren't enough black teachers to go around, either. "All the stars are aligned for white teachers to leave," says Gary Orfield, an education professor at Harvard University in Cambridge, Mass. "It's a combination of poverty and racial segregation, added to cultural differences, that all makes it tough for suburban teachers to figure out the black and Latino cultures."

In Georgia, the trend is as pronounced as anywhere: A new study from Georgia State University (GSU) in Atlanta says that 32 percent of white elementary school teachers left their posts at predominantly black schools in 2001 - up from 18 percent in 1995. Moreover, they left well-to-do black districts at about the same rate as poorer ones.

Recent studies in Texas, California, and North Carolina reach the same conclusion. The effect, critics say, is that black students aren't getting an equal shot at good schooling. The reason: As white teachers leave, many blacks are fleeing the profession, too, leaving a dearth of qualified teachers of any kind. "As a result, we have lots of classes being taught by substitute teachers, who don't usually have degrees and aren't licensed to teach anything," says Tom Clark, a former superintendent of the Picayune County, Miss., schools.

Other factors are contributing to the exodus. A recent school building boom in Georgia created more job options for teachers - many of whom wanted to work closer to their own neighborhoods. What's more, many qualified teachers tend to leave lower-performing schools at faster rates.

But the authors of a new Harvard study on the "resegregation" of the South believe the flight is rooted in something more ominous. They see it an inevitable result of a backsliding society where white and black students increasingly go to different schools. They trace that divide, in part, to recent federal court decisions outlawing civil rights-era protections, such as busing and affirmative action in college admissions. What's more, fewer and fewer Southern schools are under court order to end discrimination.

As diversity diminishes, the problems become exacerbated. Mr. Orfield notes that white teachers who grew up in integrated schools have less trouble adjusting to crowded hallways where most of the kids are black. Even practical complaints can mask deeper motivations. "It's race, not test scores, not income, that's the motivating factor, says David Sjoquist, a professor involved with the GSU study. "If there's a concern about safety simply because there are black people in the neighborhood, sociologists would say that's a form of racism."

Still, not everyone agrees that faulty motives are behind many of the white teachers' decisions to leave. In many cases, it's more a matter of general frustration and unhappiness. "I don't think that the majority of these teachers [who leave] are racist," says Mike Worthington, the white principal of predominantly black Avondale High School in suburban Atlanta.

Cultural differences certainly play a part. Mr. Worthington notes that many of the white teachers who come to his school from white high schools and predominantly white colleges have trouble adjusting to the different speech patterns and classroom characteristics at Avondale. Among other things, he would like to see new teachers learn the Creole that many blacks here speak.

"I see my kids as bilingual," says Worthington, who received his cross-cultural training as a high school football coach. "There's a language that they use within their own culture that may not be used in the majority culture at large. My teachers should know that, so they can understand what's going on and allow it to be acceptable."

Today, there are signs that colleges are trying to address the exodus as a product of teaching methods rather than latent racism. "[White flight] is a major subject of debate in the literature right now," says Christine Sleeter, an education professor at California State University at Monterey Bay.

North Carolina Central University in Durham now offers a course in "dealing with classroom diversity." At one teachers' college in Milwaukee, some interns are required to "immerse" themselves in the neighborhood where they'll be working before taking over a lectern. "White teachers need all the help they can get," says Kian Brown, a black teacher at Durham's Y.E. Smith Elementary School.


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To: NewHampshireDuo
I recall something of that sort being said. Imagine the howls if a white leader had asserted that black teachers were not as qualified as whites to teach black children (or any other children for that matter). In this article a "racist" proposition is takne for granted and most certainly not challenged in any way.
21 posted on 01/21/2003 4:20:25 AM PST by twntaipan
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22 posted on 01/21/2003 4:21:20 AM PST by mhking
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"The effect, critics say, is that black students aren't getting an equal shot at good schooling."

Utter bovine scat.

This canard ignores the reality of prevailing "black culture" in today's America, especially among their youth: hip-hop, rap, gangsta mentality, hostility toward academic achievement ("excellence"? forget it; that's a tool of da man), glorification of thuggery in music and professional sports......two industries that provide the worst of examples for young blacks, a "you OWE me" mentality, slovenly language to the point of nonstop, uninterrupted profanity that would make a sailor blush, etc.

Blacks have evey bit the same opportunities that the rest of us have. They have merely chosen........chosen, mind you.......to squander them.

I truly believe that MLK is spinning in his grave.

23 posted on 01/21/2003 4:22:13 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: NewHampshireDuo
"Didn't some "black leader" recently state that whites were incapable of properly teaching black kids?"
Wonder what the reaction would be if a "white leader" said that black kids were incapable of learning from whites?
24 posted on 01/21/2003 4:22:26 AM PST by afz400
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To: Skooz
I had the same response your wife did when I taught at a new Christian school. The first year they opened they took student who applied. I taught algebra (another foreign language) and found I spent 70% of my time on 30% of the students, the ones who just did not care. All the kids were white, so color was not a factor. I worked hard to convince them that they were on their way to a disappointed life, but they just did not care. The other 70% were wonderful to teach, even the ones who struggled since they cared, as did their parents.

It became obvious that the 30% were products of homes where the parents were not in control. Several of the girls got pregnant so they could "live on their own and the government would pay for it".

The school got very selective the next year and screened students and parents. They also started expelling students that did not want to work. It is thriving.

I agree with other posts that noted this is a racist article. It says that black teachers are inferior to white, which is not the case, since good black teachers do not want to teach in that environment either.
25 posted on 01/21/2003 4:24:35 AM PST by KeyWest
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
If every black conservative in America disappeared tomorrow, absolutely nothing would change for the better in communities like that one in Milwaukee. That's why blacks on the liberal/left side of the political spectrum need to find new targets for their ire.

The only reason they even bother with black conservatives is simply the threat they pose to the leftists' power.

26 posted on 01/21/2003 4:25:23 AM PST by StriperSniper (Start heating the TAR, I'll go get the FEATHERS.)
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To: twntaipan
"Unless I miss my mark, does this article not assert that the presence of white teachers in black districts is the only way to assure they will improve educationally? Does that not basically use an argument that assumes that black teachers are inherently less qualified? Strange logic."

In the past day or so, our local Superintendent of Schools (yes, a black man) publicly declared that anyone who was for neighborhood schools and against forced busing is a racist. Period.

This is in Raleigh, NC, by the way.......hardly some Northeast liberal bastion. He's being publicly gutted for it on talk radio, but nowhere else. The gall of this man. He not only insults his own race to a shocking degree (in effect saying "unless we mix our kids with those rich white kids, we just can't make it").........he insults parents of all races by insisting that he knows what's best for OUR kids.

27 posted on 01/21/2003 4:25:32 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: RightOnline; afz400; All
***....As white teachers leave, many blacks are fleeing the profession, too, leaving a dearth of qualified teachers of any kind....***

An odd sentence. What does it mean? Are the white teachers causing the black teachers to leave or is there some other underlying cause?

I wonder, how many of these teachers have moved on to private schools or are tutoring?

28 posted on 01/21/2003 4:28:04 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"It's a combination of poverty and racial segregation, added to cultural differences, that all makes it tough for suburban teachers to figure out the black and Latino cultures."

The “cultural differences” is probably the biggie here. Such differences as respect for teachers and education, the attitude toward crime, etc.

29 posted on 01/21/2003 4:28:08 AM PST by R. Scott
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To: RightOnline
Sounds like Chapel Hill (Berkley of the east, right?) has annexed Raleigh!
30 posted on 01/21/2003 4:29:40 AM PST by twntaipan
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
***....As white teachers leave, many blacks are fleeing the profession, too, leaving a dearth of qualified teachers of any kind....***

Worded so as to place the blame of good black teachers leaving the profession squarely on the shoulders of white teachers who leave.

31 posted on 01/21/2003 4:32:10 AM PST by twntaipan
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To: R. Scott
Such differences as respect for teachers and education, the attitude toward crime, etc.

Yes. When you read about parents coming into the classroom and beating up the teacher for some perceived affront to their child, it's easy to see how the school environment has changed.

32 posted on 01/21/2003 4:35:01 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: twntaipan
And that makes no sense. As does much of this biased article.
33 posted on 01/21/2003 4:35:59 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
As I read this ridiculous piece of purported journalism I kept thinking the point was to say that teachers should be conscripted and forced to teach in lousy situations/environments. Liberals probably think this a good idea. Sort of a third millenium re-education camp.
34 posted on 01/21/2003 4:42:13 AM PST by twntaipan (Political Correctness: The "Cultural Revolution" of the Left.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Banjoguy; meenie; ballplayer; Skooz; Arthur Wildfire! March; NewHampshireDuo
A simple question. What's so bad about segregation?

Most whites are uncomfortable around blacks.
Most blacks are uncomfortable around whites.

Given their druthers most members of both races self-segregate.

Integration, which is mainly forced, creates nothing but needless friction; on a daily basis.

What great good would be lost if people were free to associate with whoever they wanted to associate with, and not associate with those they did not want to associate with?

For those who will immediately yell "RACIST": I am not talking about seperate drinking fountains.

I am talking about FREEDOM.

Radical idea.
35 posted on 01/21/2003 4:43:48 AM PST by ricpic
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To: twntaipan
Worded so as to place the blame of good black teachers leaving the profession squarely on the shoulders of white teachers who leave.

Exactly. Apparently, ALL teachers are fleeing those innercity hell-holes, black as well as white, there were just more white teachers there to begin with.

And the article states they are leaving for schools with less black students. I'll bet they are leaving for smaller rural schools with less students of ANY color.

36 posted on 01/21/2003 4:46:26 AM PST by Nubbin
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To: RightOnline; Cincinatus' Wife; mhking
I grew up in the era of forced bussing. The newer, air conditioned (big deal in Texas) all black High School was closed, and those kids shipped to three different white high schools....... bussing divided their football team, their class beauties, cheerleaders, class officers..... everything that is worked for and developed to show achievements in High School was rendered null........

These kids were angry and scared and felt unwanted and unnecessary in the white schools.... it took years to get past those hurts, if they ever have been put aside. I thought it was stupid to close a neighborhood school and ship kids completely across town......and note that they didn't close the older high school in town and ship the white kids to the black school.......

37 posted on 01/21/2003 4:46:54 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: Nubbin
The author (and leftist loonies in general) completely refuse to fact the fact: The schools are hell-holes because of their failed policies of the past. It is easier to simply blame the whites who chose to leave for better situations.
38 posted on 01/21/2003 4:49:29 AM PST by twntaipan (Political Correctness: The "Cultural Revolution" of the Left--with equally devastating results!)
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To: Banjoguy
Most teachers, initially, are idealistic...

Very good post!

39 posted on 01/21/2003 4:53:48 AM PST by The Other Harry
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
What's more, many qualified teachers tend to leave lower-performing schools at faster rates.

Political correctness and euphemism drive pretty much all our social and political debates these days.

This makes it so easy to talk around the heart of the issues.
This tap-dancing about lower-performing schools focuses on the results, rather than the causes.
Ignore the causes, for whatever reason, and the results will never change. Indeed it can be expected to get worse, and spiral down into educational, social and political explosions.

Bottom line is that student discipline and the cultural malaise that fuels it in students of all colors are the major cause of poor performance.
And the combination of "attitude", the preoccupation with "student rights"(?), and other societal degradations (faith, patriotism, individual responsibility) have reduced schools to little more than baby-sitting criminal training centers.

This pathology spreads from the source outwards; it is only a matter of time until the symptoms are obvious in schools everywhere.

40 posted on 01/21/2003 4:57:16 AM PST by Publius6961
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