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Kim Jong-Il would be ill advised to try anything during the invasion of Iraq. George W. Bush has shown a penchant for remembering who crosses him, and making them sorry they ever did.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 01/18/2003 5:09:52 PM PST by MadIvan
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2 posted on 01/18/2003 5:10:06 PM PST by MadIvan
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3 posted on 01/18/2003 5:11:39 PM PST by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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...HILLARY RODHAM, BILL CLINTON, ROGER CLINTON, KIM JUNG II =

...Strike their Enemy when we are most weak.
4 posted on 01/18/2003 5:16:24 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ( ..Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LzXRay.com ..)
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To: MadIvan
Dear President Bush: Stay on target.
7 posted on 01/18/2003 5:20:47 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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Scary stuff for sure. Thanks for the post.
9 posted on 01/18/2003 5:25:34 PM PST by BlackJack
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To: MadIvan
Who benefits?

C H I N A !
12 posted on 01/18/2003 5:29:29 PM PST by dennisw (http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
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To: MadIvan; aculeus; BlueLancer; general_re; hellinahandcart; Poohbah
Oh no. The Dear Leader, having read Sun Tzu, is a twenty-foot tall Master Strategist. We are DOOMED.

;-)

13 posted on 01/18/2003 5:31:11 PM PST by dighton
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"Strong’s investigation highlighted warnings that a cut-off in American and Japanese fuel and food aid — caused by the nuclear crisis — will bring the Stalinist state to the brink of a new humanitarian disaster within three months. “You cannot make the children, the ill people, the old people, victims of a political crisis which they have nothing to do with,” said Strong, in apparent criticism of American and Japanese policy".

So there it is. It's our fault this lunatic ba##ard is ready to starve his people and start a nuclear arms race he can't win. Never mind the possibility of war!

14 posted on 01/18/2003 5:39:12 PM PST by Arkie2
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It's hard for me to take this guy seriously. Every time I see him in those ridiculous glasses, I think....Hey, it's Elton Jong. LOL
17 posted on 01/18/2003 5:43:44 PM PST by BossLady
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Thanks Bill, Hillary, Jimmy

Today's News

21 posted on 01/18/2003 5:45:53 PM PST by Types_with_Fist
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Why is the world full of unrealistic weenies? If Kim Jong Il detonates a bomb, we then "must deal" with him (meaning negotiate)? Why does the world not recognize that in response to a crazy threat we might just take effective action to eliminate the threat? In other words, at the very least, destroy all of North Korea's nuclear capability.

I recognize it could be extremely messy, but so will one of those atom bombs landing on America, Japan, or South Korea. In fact, tough as it may be, I insist that my government NOT permit a nuclear armed North Korea.

27 posted on 01/18/2003 5:55:25 PM PST by Williams
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George W. Bush has shown a penchant for remembering who crosses him, and making them sorry they ever did.

But the prudent course of action is to wait for the North Korean revolution. Surely President Bush would never launch an invasion merely because someone "crossed" him. But then again, Saddam Hussein allegedly tried to have Bush I assassinated when he traveled to Kuwait. Maybe that has something to do with his motives. After all, according to David Frum, the policy to remove Saddam was initiated well before 9/11, so maybe revenge is a factor.

30 posted on 01/18/2003 6:08:57 PM PST by St.Chuck
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I feel no panic. In fact, I look forward to these confrontations to rid us of these ancient evils once and for all. These corrupt leaders will be destroyed, as was the Soviet Union (but much easier and with Russian help this time; as well as NATO).
32 posted on 01/18/2003 6:34:46 PM PST by Porterville
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This Maybury fella' has been predicting this scenario for about ten years now. Seems like it is falling into line exactly as predicted.

Chaostan

34 posted on 01/18/2003 6:40:07 PM PST by snopercod (Repeal the 17th Amendment!)
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So long as N Kor has withdrawn from the Non-Proliferation Treaty, what would they lose by staging an above-ground test?
35 posted on 01/18/2003 6:46:39 PM PST by RightWhale
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Ivan....I've been meaning to say this for awhile....

I like your style. Always enjoy your posts and comments.

Cheers

36 posted on 01/18/2003 6:46:46 PM PST by Lando Lincoln
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Ahem, he coughed modestly, but I predicted that N. Korea and/or China might make a move if and when we revisited the Persian Gulf again.

Some time ago, in fact...

--Boris

38 posted on 01/18/2003 6:51:46 PM PST by boris
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“It’s straight from the works of Sun Tzu to strike while your enemy is weak.”

If your enemy is too weak, he may be forced to respond with deadly force.

The threat to go to war with us, right at the moment we are poised for war with Saddam, is precisely intended to force us to divide our forces. It is almost a certainty that NK will continue to ramp up the pressure, to force us to pay attention to him, and to hopefully convince us to delay or cancel war with Iraq.

This is the whole purpose. If threats don't work, there may be an attack on a South Korean ship, or a commando attack on South Korean territory. This isn't far-fetched, it happens all the time, anyway. Usually the press takes little note, but in the present climate they will seize on it to try and draw us away from Saddam.

If that doesn't work, they may well attempt a nuclear test, or another missile launch. Or even intensify their shootouts with the South to some point just below full scale war. Anything to convince us he is the greater threat.

It is not a serious threat. It is a calculated ruse. Before it came to fullscale war, they can always pull back and "allow" themselves to be talked back down.

And if I miscalculate, and NK launches full scale war, South Korea is well capable of handling NK. They may not want to, it would mean a heavily damaged Seoul, but NK can be handled. If they were crazy enough to resort to one of their untested nukes, South Korea is under our nuclear umbrella. A serious attack on the south could well trigger a nuclear response from us, certainly if they initiate the use of nuclear weapons, possibly even if they do not. If there is any chance of our forces being over-run, or if Seoul is taking heavy damage, we might respond with nuclear weapons to silence the bombardment, and possibly to incinerate the attacking force.

With or without the nuclear option, NK would not survive a war with the South. So they must content themselves with saber rattling, and possibly an attack that approaches but falls short of full war.

In any case, we should let the South handle it, focus on what we have to do, and deal with NK, if there is anything left to deal with, according to our own timetable.

39 posted on 01/18/2003 6:52:37 PM PST by marron
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"He crossed paths with Maurice Strong, a United Nations emissary who returned from a visit to investigate the deteriorating conditions of life for the country’s 22m people."

Strong is a traitor to humanity. He should be captured, slowly roasted, and eaten by the starving subjects of Kim Jong-Il.

--Boris

42 posted on 01/18/2003 6:53:52 PM PST by boris
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By the way, I think every US Marine Corps officer is required to have read Sun Tzu, as well.

My Sun Tzu is bigger than your Sun Tzu...
48 posted on 01/18/2003 7:03:54 PM PST by marron
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