Rush Limbaugh says the affirmative action brief still keeps promoting race preference and its bad

Rush Limbaugh ^ | 1/17/2003 | Rush Limbaugh Showi

[TLBSHOW]

Rush Limbaugh says the affirmative action brief is not what the speech said.

Does not even start to put a nail in the coffin of affirmative action and instead keeps promoting race preference. Does not know why Bush keeps doing this? He is not happy and spent the first hafe hour on it and first call had to do with this subject.

[DeathfromBelow]

how about one... Roe Vs Wade

[fightinJAG]

And let not forget that students admitted under these 10% and 20% programs are NOT THE ONLY STUDENTS ADMITTED TO THESE COLLEGES.

These programs guarantee admission to those who apply under the program.

Let's say:

A state has college capacity for 100,000 students.

There are 100,000 students who will apply for college in that state.

In the 10% program, let's say 50% of those eligible for guaranteed admission apply.

Thus, 5% of students eligible for guaranteed admission actually are admitted. This 5% takes up 5,000 seats.

100,000 seats (capacity) less 5,000 (seats granted under the guaranteed admission program) = 95,000 seats are still available for competive admission.

Unless I am doing that fuzzy math. Which is very possible. :-)

[k2blader]

No. And you have an excellent point.

rdf was kind enough to provide links to the brief. I'll be checking it out later this weekend, tho' mine will be just a layman's view of law. ;-)

[fightinJAG]

HA HA HA

ME TOO !

[lawdude]

"Bush didn't have to file a brief at all. Rush is NOT a legal expert. I stand with the President on this."

I have not read the brief. BUT, if what Rush says is correct, the pres did go back on his statements. BTW MM, I betcha Rush has access to better, more informed Constitutional law experts than you or I.

I was a victim of quotas when I went to law school and it cost me a bundle. If you want details, I will be glad to provide info in private e-mails.

[Guillermo]

I don't recall ever offering my opinion on the subject. If I did, I must have forgotten, maybe you can point to the post where I did.

I doubt you read the brief, yet you offer knee-jerk support. It seems you are guilty of what you accuse me of.

[fightinJAG]

Yup

MISOVERREACTION ALERT !!

[Miss Marple]

No, I have not read the brief. If you will look back through my comments, you will see that I do not address the brief, but discuss that Rush has not done so, that people are too willing to expect all or nothing, that there is not much understanding of how the Supreme Court works, etc.

I intend to read the brief this evening. After I have done so, I will comment on it. Meanwhile, I would suggest that my comment to you was as justified as yours was to me.

[Sacajaweau]

We are diverse in ourselves. But if the diversity of a public institution is based on race, it is no longer natural diversity but "colored" diversity and dicriminatory because it is not equally applied.

Thinking out loud.

[hchutch]

Excuse me, but I think your shot at Luis Gonzalez is not exactly warranted. Furthermore, I'll stand by my comments about her apparent mischaracterization of the univeristy admissions policies.

Everything I have heard about the Texas and Florida policies she referenced are at odds with the notion of them being "the same old, tired racial-preference policies disguised under the slipcover of 'compassionate conservatism.'" It is, from all I have seen, a PERFORMANCE-based standard.

Unless this mischaracterization is clarified, I have to side with Luis Gonzalez - and quite frankly, I won't even be able to cite her column on Senator KKK (Robert Byrd) - a column I had NO disagreement with - unless this is cleared up.

[fightinJAG]

I was wondering when we were going to start seeing other columnists--fill-in-the-blank--try to turn Ann Coulter into a genre.

[B Knotts]

I have read the "meat" of the brief, and you are correct.

I suspect this all revolves around this sentence:

Measures that ensure diversity, accessibility and opportunity are important components of government's responsibility.

If they had just left out "diversity" as a legitimate function of government, all would presumably be well.

That said, this doesn't really appear to me to be anything to get too worked up about.

[Guillermo]

First you say in post #11: "I stand with the President on this."

Now you're saying you won't comment on it till you've read it. Change of mind?

[MissAmericanPie]

There is a good reason that comes out in the end? I'm sure you wouldn't mind giving a few examples.

[Miss Marple]

There is no doubt Rush has more constitutional law experts at hand than I do. However, I do think that Ted Olson is on the President's side, along with a few others in the DOJ, so I don't necessarily think that Rush's opinion trumps the President's.

I am certain you were a victim of this stupid policy. I do not support it..nor does the President. I think people should calm down and read the brief, as I intend to do this eening, and quit letting Rush do the legal interpretation for them. Rush may say he is all-knowing, but i have found that not to be the case.

[fightinJAG]

Oh, me, it's so true: for the most part, us gulls certainly excel at keeping our wits about us.

I heard from a friend who heard from a friend that Rush read a column written by a person who heard from a friend who heard from a friend who once dated a lawyer that the brief was bad.

[Miss Marple]

I am basing my opinion on what he said in his speech. I cannot imagine that the brief is different from his speech. That would make no sense, and would assume that Ted Olson had lost his mind.

I would also point out that "diversity" does not necessarily mean RACIAL diversity. I, myself, would like to see a little more POLITICAL diversity in the big university faculties.

[fightinJAG]

"gender-specific, politically-based emotionalism" (GPE)

OH, now I am rolling!

I think it's: GSPBE

Pronounced: "Jus-pee-bee"

Transliterated to: juspeebee

And the way to remember it is "jus-pee-me" as in "me-pee-me-pants"

WHOA. There's a whole lotta juspeebee going on around here today!!

[Guillermo]

Listne, I'm not your enemy, nor am I atacking you.

It's just the automatic sycophantic boot licking gets old, although it is expected.

[fightinJAG]

No. Rush is not afraid to speak up when he DISAGREES with W. That does not necessarily mean W is WRONG.