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To: Hodar
. If selected verses were taken out of context in the bible (murder, incest, genocide) and contrasted against 'good' verses in any other religon, Christianity would look bad.

That's a load of crap as well. If you look at the Koran it systematically bears witness to the violence of it's religion.

Shall we compare ???

From the Koran, Hadith:
You may already know about this one: O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. [al-Ma'idah 5:51.11]
But did you know that there are 123 verses in the Quran concerning fighting and killing for the cause of Allah?
Here are but a few passages:
-Muslims are encouraged to be wholly occupied (Sura 2:273) with fighting for Allah's cause.
- Allah will give "a far richer recompense to those who fight for him" (Sura 4:96).
- Regarding infidels (unbelievers), they are the Muslim's "inveterate enemies" (Sura 4:101).
Muslims are to "arrest them, besiege them and lie in ambush everywhere" (Sura 9:5) for them.
They are to "seize them and put them to death wherever you find them, kill them wherever you find them, seek out the enemies of Islam relentlessly" (Sura 4:90).
"Fight them until Islam reigns supreme" (Sura 2:193). "Cut off their heads, and cut off the tips of their fingers" (Sura 8:12).
- If a Muslim does not go to war, Allah will kill him (Sura 9:39). He is to be told, "the heat of war is fierce, but more fierce is the heat of Hell-fire" (Sura 9:81).
- A Muslim must "fight for the cause of Allah with the devotion due to him" (Sura 22:78)
- Muslims must make war on the infidels (unbelievers) who live around them (Sura 9:123).
- Muslims are to be "ruthless to unbelievers" (Sura 48:29).
- A Muslim should "enjoy the good things" he has gained by fighting (Sura 8:69).
- A Muslim can kill any person he wishes if it be a "just cause" (Sura 6:152).
- Allah loves those who "fight for his cause" (Sura 61:3).
-Anyone who fights against Allah or renounces Islam in favor of another religion shall be "put to death or crucified or have their hands and feet cut off alternative sides" (Sura 5:34).
- Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him. Sahih Al-Bukhari (9:57)
- Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush. (Koran 9:5)
- Take him and fetter him and expose him to hell fire. (Koran 69:30-37)
- I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them. (Koran 8:12)
- They should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides. (Koran 5:33)
- Know that paradise is under the shades of swords. Sahih al-Bukhari Vol 4 p55

Kinda sucks to get a real smackdown, don't it Hodar?

25 posted on 01/17/2003 6:51:36 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Islam is EVIL.)
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To: Centurion2000
Fine, and I can go to an anti-Christian site and select a whole load of individual verses that are uncomplimentary too. And throwing a bunch of examples of individually selected verses, taken intentionally without context, to portray any religon hardly describes a 'smackdown'. You just illustrated my point.
27 posted on 01/17/2003 6:56:06 AM PST by Hodar
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To: Centurion2000
Kinda sucks to get a real smackdown, don't it Hodar?

Attack the point, not the person.

30 posted on 01/17/2003 6:58:36 AM PST by HarryDunne
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To: Centurion2000
Please refer me to the Islamic site that posts these texts, supposedly from the Koran.

You might have mistranslated texts there, unknowingly by you adopted as the real deal.

40 posted on 01/17/2003 7:09:18 AM PST by secretagent
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To: Centurion2000
Excellent study of Islam, for those who can't seem to believe their lying eyes as to Islam's world wide aggression.
251 posted on 01/17/2003 4:45:09 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Centurion2000
Don't forget Sura 2:191:
And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.

Contrast that with Matthew 5:39:

But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.

280 posted on 01/17/2003 9:24:23 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty" not the "Statue of Security.")
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