[vannrox]

During the Clinton Administration the ACLU denied that we were heading toward a 1984 style society. Now, suddenly we are under a Bush administration. Sounds politically motovated, even though I agree with their appraisal.

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[That Subliminal Kid]

I think this is hysterical really. What do these idiots expect with the pathetic excuse for a school system we have today? Liberals that run these monoliths of indoctrination marginalize American history and American ideals of individual freedom, and they push pseudo-moralistic values and ethics spawned from their post-1960's leftwing ideology. It should come as no surprise to anyone paying any attention at all that most Americans are becoming increasingly unaware and unconcerned about threats to their rights and privacy. Look for this trend to continue until Civil War II.

[dirtboy]

The study points to the Total Information Awareness pilot project, in which the Pentagon is seeking to maintain a database of Americans' medical, health, financial, tax and other records. Yet there are few privacy laws to prevent businesses from selling the government such information, Steinhardt said.

I think the ACLU needs to better understand what TIA is planned to be. With the currently available data on consumers, a direct-response outfit is still lucky to get a two-percent response rate for a mailing - which means that the government simply will not be able to achieve its objectives with currently available data. What Poindexter envisions would require every business in the country to capture details of each transaction and transmit that information to TIA - a modest undertaking (sarcasm) that would require reprogramming every point of sale system in the country. The ACLU, like many other people, simply don't properly understand the underlying issue here - they believe there is already all this ultra-powerful information available, when direct-response firms fail over 98 percent of the time in identifying potential customers.

[JennysCool]

I think "Big Mother" is more apt here ... We're getting into a society where the operative viewpoint is, "You'll put your eye out with that!"

[ZULU]

They are right. Big brother IS here.

Want to own a gun?? Can't do that.

Forget to buckle up a seat-belt?? You're in trouble.

Have a toilet that flushes too much water?? Yup, big brother is there alright.

Say something in private to somebody about any ethnic group and inadvertantly get overheard??? You lose your job.

Yeah. The ACLU IS right. Big Brother IS here - but their liberal buddies helped put him there.

[Blood of Tyrants]

Of course it is politically motivated. They would have absolutely no problem with the current plan if it had be a Rat Congress that passed it and a Rat in control of the various new goobermint agencies.

But they are right.

[LiteKeeper]

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[2banana]

The ACLU never heard of and will never support the 2nd Amendment...

But they will fight to the death for a teenager to have an abortion without any religion to influence her in school...

[George W. Bush]

Hopefully, this is a sign that the ACLU is actually awakening to the real threats to civil liberties posed currently instead of playing the role of handmaiden of the hard Left.

It's about time they start doing some real civil liberties work, support gun rights, get out of the abortion and sodomy rights battles which have become their trademark. And they need to forget about hounding religion out of the schools and 10 Commandments plaques out of the courthouses.

There is a serious and credible threat to the American constitution due to the modern information age. The threat is the use of information collection systems to completely eliminate privacy and anonymity, both of which are substantial components of meaningful civil liberties.

I certainly don't trust Ridge or Poindexter's TIA. It's overdue for the ACLU to return to broad and practical civil rights agenda.

[Publius6961]

LOL!

Founded and funded by the Soviet Union, the most perfect "Big Brother" in history, makes this statement beyond hilarious!

Check out an objective history of the ACLU...