1 posted on
01/16/2003 5:13:54 AM PST by
SJackson
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01/16/2003 5:14:35 AM PST by
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3 posted on
01/16/2003 5:15:28 AM PST by
SJackson
To: SJackson
Go Gettum Mosad! Less terrorists, safer world...
4 posted on
01/16/2003 5:20:23 AM PST by
American in Israel
(Hey, I may be a "rightist" but it beats being wrongest...)
To: SJackson
At least the Isreali's have the balls to do what we will not.
5 posted on
01/16/2003 5:23:21 AM PST by
scooter2
To: SJackson
Just remember to grease the bullets with hog lard.
GO GET EM!
To: SJackson
Fine with me. Better yet if they get the culprit AND his lawyer!!!
8 posted on
01/16/2003 6:19:46 AM PST by
fish hawk
To: SJackson
This is NUTS, no way, no how am I going to allow a foreign government to enter my country and kill people. It's a violation of our most fundamental sovereignty and an act of war which is why I believe this story (packed with off the record statements) is total BS.
I am a great supporter of Israel but if anyone thinks we should allow a foreign government powers we restrict from our own government its quite insane. If Israel has information about someone in the US, they had better turn that information over to us and let us handle it. If not and they go a head a take them out on their own on US soil, I would arrest their diplomats and prosecute them despite their immunity.
I also will not allow our own government to use foreign government agents as a proxy to violate constitution safe guards within the US. Imagine Clinton with power like that.
I think Bush has struck a fair balance by declaring these enemies as enemy combatants and sending them to Gizmo. If the Massad wants to trick someone into leaving the country its not my concern, but while they're on US soil the constitution is the supreme authority.
13 posted on
01/16/2003 8:30:56 AM PST by
usurper
To: SJackson
I don't think this article is true.
If the Mossad is planing hits they won't go public with it.
14 posted on
01/16/2003 9:16:18 AM PST by
Kaafi
(Leftists sucks!!!!!)
To: SJackson
Israel routinely executed enemies around the world, until one of its teams murdered an innocent man it believed to be someone else, then the practice was halted (at least officially). I wish them well in this venture and hope that they require all members of their teams to be in agreement before they kill, unlike the time they killed the wrong man.
To: SJackson
Good luck to democratic Israel. They will surely continue to be an integral part in defeating terrorism which it has done during its history of being a state. I just wish states would accept the intelligence the Jewish state has in combatting terrorism.
20 posted on
01/16/2003 9:54:23 AM PST by
yonif
To: SJackson
(Pssst... Sarandon, Robbins ...'nuff said)
25 posted on
01/16/2003 10:28:31 AM PST by
Stultis
To: SJackson; American in Israel; Yehuda; dennisw
The winners of the holy lands in the eyes of G_d will be those who will fear G_d and not men. Israel is set to win that prize on this one article. But that means the rest will turn against it, if that is true. One shall not know whether to forgive, for Jews are not psychics, but that is a matter of interesting Biblical quetion. The antithesis is the start of thought. There are of course some idolatrous iconoclasms, since real icons are those of fear, are those icons we cannot destroy in our minds and hearts, the very icon Jews failed to destroy in and about 70AD, but instead failed to prevent the tragic crucifiction of a man. That said, when Jews as a nation of men are pitted against other nations of men, it comes to a no contest nowadays, that Jews will resist more effectively, if not ultimately, miraculously, despite being confusing the conversion through strength with the one through fear.
Only nations of spirit could better them, but where is the nation of spirits and hearts nowadays?
Also the competition between the icon of fear and the icon of a man is no contest... or could it be? After all, spiritual resistance against a fearing people is not much of an accomplishment than spiritual resistance against the Romans themselves, the real threat and icon of fear. Of course, resistance comes on a first come first "served" basis, and not necessarily on a most fearsome first "served" basis, still, the weight is there.
Is it though a time for settlement of accounts, when the true fear of terrorism is known and widespreadly effective ever since the non-collapse of the Soviets and Chinese? Of course not...
Yes, there is no substitute to thinking but thinking, however, there is to be one tenet to make the thinking rational in basis: fear must be erased, this carpe diem fear, this narcissistic fear. Preparing for the future is what is needed, the ground of fearlessness for future generations. Israel has had not choice in the end, the final solution scripting things so clearly about the inevitability of crippling highly risky regimes of fear.
A lull will sound, a silence, for the souls to chose, to have a chance at ridding of fear. Art of course is a way to cope, the sort of irrationality, expressed, the sort of harlotry, the last hint of a soul not resisting fear but rising to its occasion. The psychics, the superstitious, the anticipatory superstitious wishful thinking social engineers, the communists, psychologists, the islamists and all these thrive so deeply when the regime of fear wins, when the regime of fear rules.
It is not the psychology, it is not the hopes, it is the psychologists and the false prophets!!!
All have to go back to kinder garten thinking methods, because all have lost thinking abilities because of fear, because of that primitive feeling that started in school and that kept living in them forever, always neurotic ... of course, a few have been blessed with a unique opportunity to observe and conclude thus.
Beat up, a man becomes a cripple on a wheel chair no better at running than a new born. Beat up by fear, the most intelligent being on Earth is incoherent, stupid, vain, irrational, more so than a newborn who cries against an abusive parent no matter what. Yes, newborns are better than us, they do not shut up, we do, when faced with fear. On this point Jesus had a point of course, that God's spirit would be known to them better than to us.
So we have to go back to basics in the arguments against thugs who fear life and against superstitious fear mongering and mongered liberals who hope appeasement and peace will bring peace. We have to go back: "shhh, now, honey, thesis, antithesis, thesis, antithesis. You hurt, you cry. You're hit, you hit back. You're told to believe someone, you must doubt that person."
Then next to fear and depression management: "shhhh! yes, fighting back, killing people, is a hard choice. Fear not the present, but fear the future, fear G_d. Fear is indeed the little death, it specualtes about life after death. Woe if you do the same and forget science and thinking for sake of speculation. The lusts, the temptations, the social engineering, the fears, let us go back to basics and learn how to erase those superstitious anticipations."
The process, we must not be afraid of the process, we must not try to anticipate, after all, the enemy makes it so clear that it is all doomed with it. Our promises of course we cannot even keep to our most loved ones who are about to turn against us in the blink of an eye when all falls appart.
What fear? We must fear the statute violations, we must fear G_d, we must fear the loss of status of man, and the gain as a cowardly "all too human" "being". Animals, all are, and maybe even worse, for our projecting brains and intelligence is a double edged sword. The more we know, the more unbearable it is, the more stupid we are.
What fear? What gift of fear? Is this a tool we now embody? The abused now abusing it?
The important is that the hearts will be proselytised ultimately, asking for forgiveness to indulge in children, using them for the hopes of the future, instead of protecting them from fear, ushering them into it. The icons won't even matter then, not even the icons of fear, for the important will be to see the fear right into our enemy's heart and believe and understand how always close we were to defeating it. Yes, the fear users fear most, because that is only that they know.
People rise up, say no and fight back, look at the bravery of your children, and try at least to be half as that brave, and maybe, maybe, but the process must go through, and we cannot anticipate results, we are not psychics, we cannot fear and cope with it, we can only have faith, not the faith of personal belief of how it will happen, but faith that we have to go through the process, that we must at least be there to see our enemy fear, even if we are to lose, we must make sure of this.
To: SJackson
What a paradox. A death squad in US soil, with most Americans cheering it on. I'm tempted to cheer it on, myself. But there is danger in this. I'll oppose this, but I think I'll wait a year or two. FReegards....
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