N. Korea SLAVE CAMP horror revealed

Msnbc.com ^ | 1/15/2003 | By Robert Windrem

[Bush2000]

Whenever some liberal prick says, "Communism just isn't a threat anymore", pull out this article and stick it in their faces. 200,000 people have reportedly been imprisoned here -- men, women, and children. And for what reason? Sometimes nominal differences with the government in North Korea. 20 to 25 percent of prisoners die every year. Meanwhile, the champagne and drugs flow in Malibu ... everybody's happy ... everybody's ignorant ...

This is the real human cost of Communism. The human spirit, by its very nature, wants to be free. Communism cannot survive in the face of such spirit -- so the North Koreans systematically crush dissidents and put them in Gulags like these. I don't know how those bastards sleep at night.

[Matthew James]

New book out by Alexander Yakovlev titled A Century of Violence in Soviet Russia.

Yakovlev is president of the International Democracy Foundation in Moscow and chair of Russia's Presidential Commission for the Rehabilitation of Victims of Political Repression. He's also a former Politburo member with amazing access.

The book does a good job pointing out the attrocities of the Soviets, and uses many archival citations, while naming names. It shows Lenin for the terrorist he was, and how Stalin just continued his policies.

[Travis McGee]

That sounds like a must read! Is the book new, or just new in English translation?

Does it build on and verify Conquest, Sozhenitzn et al, or is there entirely new unknown matter?

BTW, here's a version of my soon to be book cover.

[nutmeg]

bttt

[SkyPilot]

"I am honored, so honored, to be in the presence of the Dear Leader!"

Madeline Allbright

[piasa]

You have to be pretty darn paranoid to put antiaircraft guns on prison camps to prevent rescue in acountry that doesn't have any aircraft outside of government hands.

I hear that North Korea actually rakes its beaches- all of their coast, every day, to make sure that no one can cross the beaches into North Korea from the sea without leaving footprints. They are that nuts... makes our INS look really lame.

[jla]

Could you let me know how I can purchase a copy of your book?

Thanks.

[timm22]

We fight a much different enemy obviously. What do ya guys think?

Actually, this "new" enemy is remarkably similar to one we fought some 60 years ago.

I almost can't believe these accounts are true. Were it not for the fact that we saw this kind of behavior last century, I wouldn't believe it at all.

If we ever do go to war against North Korea, I will make every effort to get myself there ASAP. Though I imagine I would probably be incarcerated after the hostilities ended, as I would have no mercy on any NK commanders, camp commandants, or political officers I came across.

[tictoc]

Well, if nothing else, this is certainly great fun.

Here is the first paragraph from Donga's top story today:

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(Apologies to Freepers without Korean language support installed; you will see only random characters instead of Korean words.)

Now let's enter this into Babelfish and marvel at the prowess of machine translation:

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END BABELFISH TRANSLATION

Hmm...

But wait, donga.com also offers an English version of its content!

This appears to be a day behind the Korean-language edition... There is some good human-interest material there, like the report on a Flushing, NY, restaurant owner dead of a heart attack following false reports over her serving dog meat (which turned out to be only coyote meat).

Nothing, however, about the affectionate germ exchange, nor whose Assembly will get its member torn (ouch!), and nothing either on the strong unpleasantly wind... although perhaps it is best not to ask.

[AmericanInTokyo]

It did not work.

I even went to Korean font mode and still got the nonsense fonts. Perhaps you can give a URL link, since I have Korean fonts, but foreign font export does not apparantly work as text through the FR system (although posting as HTML from a website banner, etc, does).

[AmericanInTokyo]

A very good post. Well put B2, well put.

[AmericanInTokyo]

As I mentioned, there are drawbacks. (I know, I read some hilarious report about "problems of Kim Jong il and it's anus hemorroid toward the policy of S. Korea")

Good basically for charts and headlines. For languages the most similar to English, such as Spanish, German, etc., it works much better, admittedly. Good luck!

[PuNcH]

Already are per MSNBC report: " ...Products made by prison laborers may wind up on U.S. store shelves, having been “washed” first through Chinese companies that serve as intermediaries..."

sounds plausible......the commies/Nikkies will do anything for a buck...

Attention Walmart shoppers!

[tictoc]

Thanks.

The "official" English-language version that donga.com itself produces is well worth a visit.

Next time I see my Korean colleague, I'll be able to surprise him with my intimate knowledge of parochial politics from his homeland!

[AmericanInTokyo]

Cool.

You are well on your way!

[Travis McGee]

For now just click here, but in a day or two the www.enemiesforeignanddomestic.com site should be functional. You can read about the first 1/3 of the book in its 99.9% finished form under excerpts.

[jla]

Thanks, Travis. I'm looking forward to reading it.

[Travis McGee]

I hope you enjoy it!

[Travis McGee]

They rake the South Korean beaches too, to guard against the very real threat of N Korean agents, terrorists and sabateurs landing.

[M. Peach]

A thought just occurred to me. Do you think the North Koreans in the prison camps would have allowed this to happen if they had guns?

But of course, we all know that citizens should not be allowed to arm themselves....