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Linux Set to Challenge Windows on Desktop
Reuters | 1/12/2003 | Reed Stevenson

Posted on 01/12/2003 7:54:22 PM PST by new cruelty

SEATTLE (Reuters) - Bought the latest whiz-bang personal computer, but don't know what to do with your older, fully functional PC?

One option would be to try breathing new life into it with Linux (news - web sites), the software standard that is presenting itself as an alternative to Microsoft Corp.'s (NasdaqNM:MSFT - news) Windows operating system.

With better stability, security and pricing in a desktop operating system with a look-and-feel similar to Windows, Linux advocates say they are getting ready to take on Microsoft, which dominates the desktop market.

Since Linux is free to be copied and modified, unlike proprietary software from Microsoft, it is cheaper to obtain.

For less than $100, most versions of Linux offer a package of software that lets users send and receive e-mail, surf the Web, write documents and use spreadsheets. Microsoft's Windows and its Office productivity program can together cost several hundreds of dollars.

The cost of obtaining Linux software from a variety of distributors, such as Red Hat Inc. (NasdaqNM:RHAT - news), SuSE, Xandros and Mandrake, mainly goes toward service agreements that provide regular updates to the software, manuals and customer support, as well as the software on a CD in a nicely packaged box.

Once confined to the desktops of technically savvy users, Linux is becoming easier to install, operate and maintain for the average user.

Xandros Desktop, one version of Linux, requires only five clicks or less to get the operating system up and running.

Red Hat, the most visible Linux distributor, offers a package of programs that includes instant messaging (news - web sites), programs for managing digital photos, sounds and video, as well as plenty of games.

Many personal files, documents and pictures used with a Windows system can be transferred and used on a Linux system. Some Windows-based software programs, such as older version of Microsoft Office or its rival, Lotus Notes, can even be installed to run on top of a Linux system.

For those who don't want to take the plunge and switch to a Linux-only system, using an older PC is a good way to test the waters, said Xandros co-chairman Frederick Berenstein.

"Everything just works," Berenstein said.

For those who want to start using Linux on their current PC without sacrificing their Windows programs, nearly all of the major Linux versions offer something ingloriously called a boot manager, which lets users choose between Windows and Linux.

Because Linux can be modified so easily, each Linux distributor creates its own version of Linux with different features and designs. Since Linux software developers can all copy from each other in their quest to create a better product, Linux advocates argue that innovation is an inherent part of the Linux operating system.

"Linux will create a renewed climate of competition and innovation for desktop applications," said Mark de Visser, vice president of marketing at Red Hat.

"Today most of the applications for Windows are Microsoft applications -- there just is no level playing field," he said, referring to the advantage Microsoft has over other application developers since it also makes the basic software platform.

LINUX -- NOT JUST FOR GEEKS

Developed just over a decade ago by a Finnish student named Linus Torvalds (news - web sites), Linux was created as an open-source alternative to proprietary Unix (news - web sites)-based operating systems, which lets users see, modify and copy software source code -- the underlying blueprints for programs.

Graphical and icon-based versions of Linux have come a long way from the unfriendly command-line based operating systems that only geeks know how to use. These harken back to the pre-Windows era when Microsoft's MS-DOS was standard on PCs.

Figures are hard to come by, but most experts agree that Microsoft software runs on well above 90 percent of PCs, with Linux making up a minuscule number of the total. Yet Linux already has a 15 to 20 percent share of the market for servers, which manage computer networks.

Now, Linux developers have created a variety of graphics-based desktops that offer a dizzying array of options for users who never want to see a command line.

Users can customize their desktop, screensavers, fonts and devices connected to their PCs by navigating through menus.

Tapping into Linux distribution Web sites allows users to access an ever-growing collection of applications -- for free.

Some versions of Linux can switch between languages nearly instantly, while Microsoft creates different versions of its operating system for different languages.

And for those who want to stick with a Windows-style system, the Xandros desktop is deliberately designed to look like Windows, with a similar file system and a task bar that sports a button that pulls up a menu like the "Start" button.

"What we offer is ease of installation and familiarity," Berenstein said.

The standard edition of Mandrake Linux, a popular Linux platform, costs $33 while a beefed up version with more than 2,000 applications costs $70.

The latest personal edition of Red Hat Linux costs $30, and the personal edition from longtime Linux developer SuSE costs $27. Xandros is available for $99.

"It is early to call this a threat to Microsoft and Windows, as the percentages (of users) are still low. But the numbers are growing, and at some point users will be able to buy computers with preloaded Linux, printers and other devices that come with Linux drivers, and desktop applications that come in both Windows and Linux versions," said Red Hat's de Visser, "Once that happens, the threat to Microsoft Windows will become very real."


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To: SpaceBar
Hey Spacebar, I was just backing up my system with a Frys cheapy. For $199 I got a new 800MHz with 128 meg of sd-ram, everything but a cd-rw which I had and will install.
I intend to play around with it for a while in the least, but wondered if it could run any programs that run on windows like office 2000 or Coral Draw?

The funny thing is the $199 computer is all I need to do everything. Gee, I guess I am paying $239 with my re-writable drive.

Now I own other MS Operating Systems that I may install if Linux is too limiting.
As someone that kind of fell into a computer sale on a computer with your system, what can't it do compared to Windows OS at this time?
41 posted on 01/12/2003 10:15:29 PM PST by A CA Guy
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To: krb
Thank You!
42 posted on 01/12/2003 10:16:28 PM PST by A CA Guy
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To: shadowman99
Thanks for the input. It was evident from my experience that KDE and Gnome were too much for the 486. I was familiar with Xenix (Unix flavor)that ran well even on a 386, handling 8 or more dumbterminals hanging on it, but no graphic interface. I have since rebuilt the old 486 with new motherboard, etc.--basically replaced everything but the power supply and the box.

I'll try Linux again, especially given the newer installations that recognize hardware better.
43 posted on 01/12/2003 10:17:08 PM PST by DeFault User
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To: SpaceBar
I did get Linux on the 486 and experienced much of the driver searches, etc. I had a dual boot with Windows. The memory hogs such as KDE affected the machine so that the Linux environment was slower than the Windows on that particular computer. (This was several years ago.)

I will try it again on better equipment because of previous experience with Unix and its stability.
44 posted on 01/12/2003 10:28:59 PM PST by DeFault User
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To: new cruelty
What? No mention of Lindows?
45 posted on 01/12/2003 10:30:49 PM PST by Sally II
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To: 1stFreedom
Most distributions try to cater to the broadest audience, that being folks who want to buy the package and install the whole shootin' match at once.

With that said, there are ways to start with minimal installs and then add packages as you go. Some distributions make this easier than others. Probably the easiest approach would be to visit debian.org and download the three- or four-diskette install set, write the diskette images to floppies, then follow the directions and do a network install off of one of the Debian mirror sites. That would cut your download requirements for a working system to a minimum, then you could fire up dselect and choose packages as you go.

46 posted on 01/12/2003 10:53:11 PM PST by dwollmann
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To: Sally II
What is Lindows? In brief.
47 posted on 01/12/2003 11:09:58 PM PST by A CA Guy
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To: A CA Guy
Here is their website:

LINDOWS Home

48 posted on 01/12/2003 11:20:43 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Governor Gray Davis should be recalled!)
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To: A CA Guy
LindowsOS is a new, fun and exciting operating system that delivers the power, stability and cost-savings of Linux with the ease of a windows environment. LindowsOS is easy to experience because of its friendly graphical interface and support for popular Microsoft Windows file types (.doc, .xls, .ppt, .jpg, .gif, .mp3, etc.).
49 posted on 01/12/2003 11:22:27 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Governor Gray Davis should be recalled!)
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To: A CA Guy
I have a 486-33 DX in the other room. It has a stripped down slackware installation on it. It will dial and authenticate my isp on that line if my other machine running win2k dies. It is well tested and rock solid. I've posted to freerepublic from it using Pine. Great machine.
50 posted on 01/12/2003 11:27:14 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: SpaceBar
I've posted to freerepublic from it using Pine.

How did you post using pine? I thought pine was a pop-3 email client.

51 posted on 01/12/2003 11:40:33 PM PST by krb (the statement on the other side of ths tagline is false)
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To: krb
Pine is a text based email client available for generic unix, linux, win32, bsd and other platforms. I believe the University of Washington has the software copyright. Your mileage may vary.
52 posted on 01/12/2003 11:48:45 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: krb
My mistake. I posted with Lynx. Probably time to get some REM sleep.
53 posted on 01/12/2003 11:50:22 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: SpaceBar
Exactly my point. How did you post to Freerepublic with an email client?
54 posted on 01/12/2003 11:50:36 PM PST by krb (the statement on the other side of ths tagline is false)
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To: SpaceBar
Well lets face it. Windows takes a long time to come up because it is loading everything but he kitchen sink. Even with the newer computers it takes forever to load. The only difference is the brain, memory and communication skills of the modern computer makes it less likely to crash.

I am posting with my 4-5 year old CTX 300MHZ computer with a 100mhz bus. It has a 500k buffer (a place to hold often used information for the computer) and that seems to make it operate pretty fast.

A friend bought me a computer at Frys for $199. It has much faster memory, a bigger brain by far and 6 times more hard drive than what I am typing to you on now.

I have a 386 in the other room running windows 3.1. It starts with a menu I created that lets it go to Dos or 3.1. 3.1 loads in a snap compared to modern windows. Even on that 386. It has a 5 and 1/4th drive. I didn't get rid of it because some of my friends have dos programs and run into trouble at times and that old computer comes in handy every 9 months or so.

I think there is hardly a difference between my P2 300mhz and some of the $5000 dollar computers I've been on at friends.
55 posted on 01/12/2003 11:54:22 PM PST by A CA Guy
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Have a link to share with a buddy here or in his FR mail?
56 posted on 01/13/2003 12:01:34 AM PST by A CA Guy
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks, I missed this and asked for the link.
57 posted on 01/13/2003 12:03:06 AM PST by A CA Guy
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
$119? Lindows...surprising. What makes them worth $119?
58 posted on 01/13/2003 12:08:20 AM PST by A CA Guy
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To: A CA Guy
Here is a link to the WalMart $199.00 Computer System that has Lindows & Linux:

Microtel SYSMAR710 800 MHz PC with LindowsOS - $199.86

128 MB memory
10 GB hard drive
CD-ROM drive
Integrated 10/100 Ethernet connection
LindowsOS 2.0 operating system
Modem and floppy disk drive
are not included
No Monitor either!

59 posted on 01/13/2003 12:18:30 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Governor Gray Davis should be recalled!)
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To: A CA Guy
$119? Lindows...surprising. What makes them worth $119?

Beats me, perhaps convience.

I am not a Linux knowledgable person, I did have training on AIX, but I was not skilled with it at all!

60 posted on 01/13/2003 12:24:31 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Governor Gray Davis should be recalled!)
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