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[PianoMan]

Sliver of hope for Zimbabwe bump.

[Billy_bob_bob]

" Any agreement would include guarantees of immunity for Mugabe, 78, from prosecution over alleged misrule and human rights violations during his 23 years in power, Tsvangirai said."

So, when it is all said and done, after all of the murders and beatings and destruction and occupation and total devastation of the entire economy and any sembelance of rule of law, the only thing that matters to Mr. Mugabe is.....Mr. Mugabe.

How bloody typical. How bloody revolting.

And what about the lives that have been destroyed by Mr. Mugabe's regime? How about the farms that have been stolen? Will they be returned and their former owners compensated for their losses? Of course not.

[happygrl]

"It is obvious Mugabe has become a liability to his party and the nation as a whole," Tsvangirai said.

Mugabe is out of the country. It may be that this will be a fait accompli upon his return.

Mugabe may have immunity from Zimbabweans, but he could be sued in US courts for human rights abuses.

In the face of starvation, Tsvangirai is right in making a deal, but only if there are agreements to restore the rule of law.

High court judges appropriating farms (a recent thread on FR) does not bode well for the future.

The ZANU-PF elite must have their power broken. I do not know if this is possible.

[expatpat]

This sounds like it is a lot more likely to happen than any similar action re Sadaam in Iraq.

What a great step this would be, if it came true!

[per loin]

This is a scam by the high folk in Zanu. They want foreign aid to start pouring in rapidly, so that the properties and goodies that they've looted aren't taken from them by starving mobs. Shortly, we will be hearing calls for the dollars necessary to return democracy to Zimbabwe.

[Clive]

Mugabe's resignation alone won't do it and amnesty for Mugabe alone won't do it.

Mugabe could not have sustained a tyranny alone. That requires co-operation by the police and the courts looking away as "war veterans" and Green Bombers commit atrocities in public and highly placed Zanu PF cadre loot the country.

It also takes a willingness on their part to surrender power and influence and assurances of amnesty to them.

It will also take some guarantees to insure that what happened to Zapu PF does not happen to the MDC.

Otherwise, Mugabe goes into retitement in some friendly African or Asian country while his sherpas use the force controlled by them to continue themselves in power and the MDC gets co-opted and eventually dismantled and its cadre exiled or killed.