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Bush May Enter Affirmative Action Case...
Associated Press

Posted on 01/10/2003 6:25:04 PM PST by RCW2001

By Ron Fournier
AP White House Correspondent
Friday, January 10, 2003; 8:56 PM

WASHINGTON –– Bush administration lawyers are laying the groundwork to oppose a University of Michigan program that gives preference to minority students, a step that would inject President Bush into the biggest affirmative action case in a generation.

Bush himself has not decided what role, if any, the administration will play in the landmark case but several officials said Friday night he is unlikely to stay on the sidelines. White House political allies are planning to intervene against the Michigan program nonetheless.

The administration officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, pointed to Bush's record in Texas and their continuing review of Clinton administration affirmative action cases as signs that the president is inclined to oppose the university's policies. Furthermore, he is likely to suggest alternatives to racial preferences that still promote diversity, officials said.

Bush is awaiting formal recommendations from Justice Department and White House lawyers before making his decision.

The Supreme Court, in its most important case this year, is expected to rule on the constitutionality of programs that gave black and Hispanic students an edge when applying to the University of Michigan and its law school.

The issue is a lightning rod both for conservative voters who back Bush and for minority voters, whom Republicans are courting.

Further complicating the White House's decision is the fallout for the GOP from the racially provocative comments that cost Sen. Trent Lott, R-Miss., his job as Senate majority leader. Bush denounced Lott's remarks, which were widely interpreted as nostalgia for segregation.

Siding with white students so soon after the Lott controversy could be seen as an affront to blacks.

The administration is not a party to the Michigan fight and does not have to take a position. Traditionally, however, the White House weighs in on potentially landmark cases.

Bush must decide soon. Legal briefs opposing affirmative action are due to the court Jan. 16, and briefs supporting the Michigan admissions plans are due in February.

Lawyers for political allies of the White House are drafting friend-of-the-court briefs arguing that the University of Michigan policy is unconstitutional, administration officials said.

The Justice Department is awaiting word from Bush on whether to file a brief of its own. At the least, Bush is expected to take a public stand on the matter and explain his position that racial quotas are not needed to foster diversity, officials said.

In Texas, Bush opposed racial preferences in public universities and proposed instead that students graduating in the top 10 percent of all high schools be eligible for admission. Supporters say the policy increased diversity because many schools are largely minority.

Among the cases that would bolster their argument against the University of Michigan, officials said, is a 1997 affirmative action suit that supported a white high school teacher's claim that she suffered reverse discrimination when laid off from her job. A black teacher was retained.

The Clinton administration argued that the school district's affirmative action policy went too far and could not be justified merely by the notion that a diverse teacher corps is a worthy goal.

"A simple desire to promote diversity for its own sake ... is not a permissible basis for taking race into account," the government said then.

The brief was largely written by Walter Dellinger, former head of the Office of Legal Counsel and later the Clinton administration's acting solicitor general. Administration lawyers consider at least one other Dellinger brief, a case involving a Wisconsin teacher, as further basis to argue against the University of Michigan policy.

Contacted Friday, Dellinger said the reasoning assumed that there is some role for affirmative action but noted that the tool can be wrongly used.

"The general position taken was that while the use of race is sometimes permissible in educational settings, it must be narrowly tailored and shown to advance important educational goals," he said.

In a 1995 memo analyzing the effects of a Supreme Court case over affirmative action in government contracting, the Clinton administration's Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel noted that the Supreme Court has consistently rejected racial balancing as a goal of affirmative action.

"To the extent that affirmative action is used to foster racial and ethnic diversity, the government must seek some further objective beyond the achievement of diversity itself," said the memo, largely written by Dellinger.

© 2003 The Associated Press


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To: TLBSHOW
Save it. For you to use "No Response" as some kind of proof against Bush, shows your true agenda.

Like I said, you're not fooling anyone.

361 posted on 01/11/2003 1:58:42 AM PST by Deb
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To: Deb
I guess your fooled because your blind!
362 posted on 01/11/2003 7:24:20 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Deb
Come on Deb your the trasher now. Don't hide!
363 posted on 01/11/2003 8:34:55 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Torie
"...but not relevant to the point that Bush has a duty to speak out."

Let's take a journey into Utopia, shall we?

The way that I have understood that our form of government should work is as follows:

If I am right in this interpretation, the presidential duty is to await the decision of the Judicial branch, and enforce it. They may also raise challenges in Court if need be. Now, I know that's a rather simplistic view, and that there are a lot more intricacies and duties, but it’s sufficient to make my point.

I believe that in that perfect void where the Founders imagined a government working, the political ideology of the president should never influence the decisions of the Courts. The way that the Executive Branch is constitutionally able to influence the Courts, lies in the nomination of appointees to the Federal benches.

The real battle is there.

364 posted on 01/11/2003 9:27:38 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: aristeides
Bush lawyers lay groundwork to oppose U-M affirmative action policy

but several officials said

Friday night

he is unlikely to stay on the sidelines

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/820919/posts?page=6#6

365 posted on 01/11/2003 9:32:18 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Letter from Ward Connerly to Karl Rove

e-list of leaders of Anti-Preferences movement

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/820929/posts?page=

366 posted on 01/11/2003 10:00:56 AM PST by TLBSHOW (Keeping the Republicans Feet to the fire lets End Affirmative Action)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Well yes, but the three branches cross fertilize each other. Congress must confirm many executive branch nominations, and the solicitor general has been arguing SCOTUS cases for a long time. Morever, this may shock you, but politics does intrude on SCOTUS's decisions. It would be folly for them to ignore the political and other practical effects of their decisions. In some areas, the Constitution just lays down broad guidelines, and it is up to SCOTUS to balance all the competing considerations. A good grasp of civics is a mere start to really understanding how governance works.
367 posted on 01/11/2003 11:11:33 AM PST by Torie
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To: Torie
"A good grasp of civics is a mere start to really understanding how governance works."

Ya think?

My point to those "real conservatives" reading, is that expecting the president to weigh in on this or any other matter before the Courts, is anatema to their constitutional governance stance, and in fact, they are advocating politics over the constitution.

I understand the politics of every situation. They understand it only when it suits them.

368 posted on 01/11/2003 11:47:21 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: TLBSHOW
WOW! So you are "Clinton is Scum" ?

Were you banned before ?
369 posted on 01/11/2003 12:40:55 PM PST by cmsgop ( Don't Drink and FReep !!!!)
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To: cmsgop
I'm just wondering why he hasn't passed out yet.
370 posted on 01/11/2003 12:46:55 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Eleven. Exactly. One louder.)
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To: aristeides
President Bush no doubt has competing recommendations sitting on his desk about the Michigan case. Odds are, he is choosing between staying out of the case, or filing a brief which opposes affirmative action. We now know from experience that this President has the courage of his convictions, and that the decision will be his, alone.

I would not be surprised to find out, after the fact, that Gonzlez may have recused himself from this process, on the grounds that in the near future he may be nominated to the federal bench, and the same issue may come before him as a judge.

Congressman Billybob

371 posted on 01/11/2003 12:47:51 PM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: Luis Gonzalez
My point to those "real conservatives" reading, is that expecting the president to weigh in on this or any other matter before the Courts, is anatema to their constitutional governance stance, and in fact, they are advocating politics over the constitution.

Hardly Luis, there is nothing anti-constitutional about the executive filing an amicus brief.

Likewise, there is nothing anti-constitutional about Senator McConnell filing against CFR.

372 posted on 01/11/2003 12:57:27 PM PST by jwalsh07 (March for Life in DC ,1/22/03.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Hello, my friend,

I was beginning to dispair of finding intelligent life on this thread. Then I came to your post.

Actually, the Executive Branch DOES have a role to play in Judicial Branch decisions. The Solicitor General is there for the purpose of presenting the Administration's position to the Supreme Court. Where the government is a party to the case, the SG must take part in the case.

The second alternative comes in cases where the government is NOT a party. Then, the SG can come in if he and the President want to do that. The last and rarest opportunity is when the SG has not come in, and the Court INVITES a brief from the government. Though this is only a "request," any lawyer ignores a "request" from a judge at his peril.

No matter how the SG comes into a case, the Court always gives great weight to briefs filed by the SG. However, the Court is in no way bound to accept the postion set forth by the SG.

So it is a subtle role, and not a controlling role, but the Executive does have input in the course of Judicial decisions.

Congressman Billybob

373 posted on 01/11/2003 1:25:56 PM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: jwalsh07; Congressman Billybob
Hey guys!

Welcome to the jungle.

In none of the cases you both put forth, and this may be a silly difference in semantics, is the president himself involved. It's all done, as I said (sort of) in my original post, through the office of the Solicitor General .

Or am I wrong in that? I am not familiar with the intricacies of government.

After all, I'm just one of them non-assimilating immigrants out to destroy western civilization.

:-)
374 posted on 01/11/2003 1:38:55 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Everyone when they typed "Bush" meant the SG filing a brief. But it is Bush that unleashed the SG. The SG is not a free agent. Whatever the SG files reflects the administration's opinion.
375 posted on 01/11/2003 2:31:32 PM PST by Torie
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To: cmsgop; Deb
ask Jim. do you believe everything a trasher like deb says?

LOLROF
376 posted on 01/11/2003 2:48:15 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Topic: George W. Bush
Where does George W. Bush stand on affirmative action?

Campaign For a Colorblind America




The Campaign For a Colorblind America (www.equalrights.com) asked George W. Bush to answer the following questions:



Congress should enact a law that would ban discrimination and preferences on the basis of race, color, sex, ethnicity and national origin in the operation of public employment and public contracting.

Agree_____ Disagree_____ No Opinion_____



Race-based "affirmative action" should be replaced with class- or need-based affirmative action or a system based on merit only.

Agree_____ Disagree_____ No Opinion_____



No recent immigrant of any race should benefit from "affirmative action" or racial preferences because they have not faced a history of discrimination in the United States.

Agree_____ Disagree_____ No Opinion_____



In his answer, to each of these questions, Gov. George W. Bush checked "No Opinion."

Also, Gov. Bush did not take a position on Measure A, better known as the Houston Civil Rights Initiative, which would have outlawed race and gender preferences in contracting in Houston.



377 posted on 01/11/2003 2:55:09 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Congressman Billybob
but the Executive does have input in the course of Judicial decisions.

Congressman Billybob


BUMP
378 posted on 01/11/2003 2:56:42 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Clinton Is Scum
to Clinton Is Scum, I am you and you are me, what fools LOL
TLBSHOW



http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/site/user-posts?id=8473
Clinton Is Scum
Don't Rule Out Force (in North Korea) ^

Posted by Clinton Is Scum to WatchNKorea
On News/Activism ^ 01/10/2003 6:18 PM EST #11 of 14 ^

It doesn't look like #2 is going to happen.



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Plundering 'for the children' (Michelle Malkin) ^

Posted by Clinton Is Scum to Billthedrill
On News/Activism ^ 01/10/2003 9:47 AM EST #15 of 39 ^

$700 a month is an error. Michelle will be running a correction.



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Anti-U.S. Sentiment Deepens in S. Korea ^

Posted by Clinton Is Scum to hc87
On News/Activism ^ 01/10/2003 8:31 AM EST #46 of 46 ^

1. Reputation in East Asia. The US accepted the mission of guaranteeing South Korean security in the 1950s. So long as the threat remains (and the Korean War is unresolved), our reputation as major power in Asia depends on us standing by the Koreans. At least so long as the South Koreans want us there.
The Cold War is over. The South Koreans no longer want us there. Because circumstances have changed, withdrawal will not cause our reputation to suffer. If anything, it will cause our reputation to improve, since Asians will realize they cannot take our support for granted.

2. Japan. Our "bargain" with Japan after WW II was to act



379 posted on 01/11/2003 2:58:17 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
Your spam finger must get real tired.
380 posted on 01/11/2003 2:59:30 PM PST by Deb
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