Senate stunner for W tax plan

New York Daily News ^ | 1/10/03 | KENNETH R. BAZINET

[DoughtyOne]

Start taking names today. When these folks run again, they run on their own money. The party should not extend to them one red cent. They party should instead run true conservatives to compete with them. And they party should tell their constituants why.

Top of the list? Johnny Dumb Lately McCain.

[Straight Vermonter]

"I would like to see further tax cuts targeted toward middle- to lower-income taxpayers who would be likely to put the money back into the economy," she said.

Would the "wealthy" put their money under in the mattress? Where do these people learn their economics?

[Claire Voyant]

Moderate Republicans....YUK!

Orrin Hatch cut a deal with Leahy to give him 50% of the udicial Committee budget when the Democrats were only entitled to 33%!!!! Moderate Republicans...YUK!!

Senator Frist needs to do something to Hatch!! And we need to do something about Chaffee. Anyone have his phone number??

[The Raven]

We need some folks calling for STRONGER measures - like spending reductions.

[Dick Vomer]

Screw the Republican Party....

Only direct donations to individuals... lets start getting rid of the dead weight. This is a good method to determine who the RINO's are and who the Republicans are. I knew that it was to good to be true.

[jla]

"I can't see giving away any more of our revenues, which we're doing in tax cuts."

I'm glad you put this quote in bold, Kattracks.
It shows the unabashed audacity & utter contempt some of these elected representatives have for the people of this country.

[cardinal4]

Absolutley. At a time when the democrats have declared war on W, Republican Senators who go against Bush's agenda at this critical juncture,i.e. controlling the Senate, are no better than Jim Jeffords.

[DoughtyOne]

Dick, I am no longer a Republican. I joined the reform party in 2000. That being said, are you saying you don't want the economic package, the tax cuts to take effect? Fiscal conservancy is something we both can back I'm sure. These stimulus packages will get us back to a surplus IMO. I support them. That's the reason I'm for sticking it to those who would deny them to us.

[DoughtyOne]

That's my take as well. Look, this is a fiscal conservative issue. I'm not a hugh supporter of Bush for every decision he makes, but this does make sense. I will support him stridently when he does the right thing.

[kidd]

This was to be expected.

Senator McCosnowchaff will have an extraordinate amount of power over the next couple of years.

[grania]

"I would like to see further tax cuts targeted toward middle- to lower-income taxpayers who would be likely to put the money back into the economy," she said.

A lot of middle class Americans have their savings in CDs. Before the GWB presidency, there were rates to be had at over 6%. Now, even the good ones are just a shade over 4%. That's a 50% loss in interest when CDs are renewed. It's devestating to Seniors who use that interest in order to balance their budgets or provide some extra income for non-essentials.

So, logic would be that the tax cut should be on CD interest...if it's really meant to help middle class Americans who have suffered with the Bush economy.

As far as any cuts, though. The last one didn't save the economy. The bracket reductions are still in place. I think it might be an economic mistake to cut more taxes when government expenditures are going up.

[gulfcoast6]

And the Demopubs surface their ugly heads once again.

[Uncle Bill]

Bush may have to compromise to pass tax plan
"The package needs a lot of scrutiny,'' said Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine. ``I'm pleased he has come up with an economic plan; the question is, what should be in it? I would have chosen different elements.''

Even one of Bush's most reliable Democratic allies, Sen. John Breaux, D-La., is critical of the package and bearish on its prospects. Bush and his allies ''cannot pass it like it is,'' Breaux said. ``They are going to have to move on a lot of things.''

''It's going to be very tough to get it through the Senate,'' said Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, a member of the Senate GOP leadership. Bush ``put out what he believes is right, what his wish list is. There's going to have to be compromise.''

Despite Bush's sense of urgency about the economy, congressional leaders say it probably will be months before a version of the plan can clear Capitol Hill.

But other Republicans say there is less enthusiasm for the new Bush plan in the GOP rank and file than there was for the 2001 bill, which cut taxes by $1.35 trillion.."

[Robert_Paulson2]

Sad times indeed.
We would have done better had the dems kept control of the senate.

NOBODY has the balls to bust chaffee, snowe, mccain or any of the liberal sellouts of our "conservative" party... after all It's THEIR money... you see it in quotated living black and white... via the mouth of saint chafee.

If we cannot win our agenda with the house the senate and the white house... what's the use.

We may as well surrender to the mexicans, arabs and north koreans... as we obviously have to our old whitehaired liberals, posing as republicans in the Senate, without even a fight.

These guys should be politically castrated by noon tomorrow... and us just get back to the fact that we have NO majority anywhere. Bush is not conservative on social issues, immigration or the expansion of the federal government. The senate is not conservative, even 25 percent. The house is, but what difference does it make, when the president signs laws that are socialist holdovers from the last democratic controlled Senate. Laws that could be simply vetoed out of existence, never to see the light of day again...

but hell now, they passed it, they got kicked out of control, andnow BUSHY is going to ram it to us anyhow... "aka the greenie wetlands law" for example today.

you and I disagree on immigration, but compared to bush, you and i have less than two degrees of separation. WHAT'S going on here?

George morphing into his dad?
Does he not remember what compromise with these turkeys on social spending and stuff did to his dad? Despite the fact that his dad, ostensibly, won the desert shield thingie?

Can conservatives be so stupid as to tolerate this?
apparently so. :-(

[GEC]

It's time to start twisting arms.

W needs to call each of these idiots over to the WH for a chat.

[RWG]

If the head ditto's recent rants are correct and 70% of the economy is driven by consumer spending then a cut for the top bracket makes no sense because whatever benefit accrues to net for that bracket is hardly likely to be spent at Home Depot whereas any cut in my rate gets spent at CompUSA.

[dennisw]

Whatever happened to LOYALTY? And putting the ego trips, the strutting around for the TV cameras to impress your constituents, aside for a few crucial months?

And that smug little, tousled_hair blowing in his face, Chaffee twit from Rhode Island? Disgusting, palling around on TV with Diana Finestein.

[DoughtyOne]

None of us get everything we want. Even if it isn't exactly the right thing, it would go a long way towards it.

I hate to say this, but the only reason these folks want months to work on this, is so that they can take all the time they want to pad the legislation with graft for the folks back home.

Anotherwords, we'll spend a bundle to get tax savings realized. This is just exactly what the Democrats did when Reagan pushed through his tax cuts. Federal revenues skyrocketed, but spending grew faster. Looks like a case of "here we go again." How sad and utterly frustrating.

These Republicans should hang their heads in shame. We have both houses and still the party can't do a damned thing right.

[snopercod]

Indeed. The senate needs a good enema. Repealing the 17th Amendment looks better and better to me.

I know it's not possible on a federal level, but the California Republican leader announced that he would personally file recall papers on any Republican in the legislature who caved on not raising taxes.

I would like to see Frist take charge on this right off the bat. You know, cut a few hearts out or something...