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Oak Cliff's Ed Sebesta helped topple Trent Lott
The Dallas Observer ^ | January 9, 2003 | Jim Schutze

Posted on 01/09/2003 6:58:39 PM PST by Trajan88

For his role in exposing the radical right fringe of the Republican Party, Ed Sebesta has been called "a really important national figure."

No one--least of all Ed Sebesta--would argue that Ed Sebesta of Oak Cliff brought down Trent Lott. But I can make a pretty good case that Lott would still be majority leader of the Senate if Sebesta had never been born.

I have written about Sebesta before: A computer engineer by trade, he was drawn into an avocation as a Web archivist by local issues, beginning with his unsuccessful campaign in the early 1990s to have the statue of Robert E. Lee removed from Lee Park on Turtle Creek. From Lee Park, Sebesta quickly spread his electronic tentacles. (See "Southern Fried," July 1, 1999.)

A high-energy, nervously bright man, Sebesta used his computer know-how and the nascent power of the Web to gather information and intelligence on neo-Confederates--white supremacist, right-wing radicals around the nation. Not skinheads. Not Nazis, Klansmen, militiamen, Aryan Nationals or other easily dismissed characters from the Halloween Right. Sebesta was plumbing a different phenomenon--tenured professors, pundits, politicians and clergy who maintain a double public life, contained and civilized before the big audience but extremely radical, even seditious, in articles and lectures traded more or less behind the scenes in small journals and on Web pages. The third rail powering this train of thought is a deep-seated and bitterly resentful rejectionism--the belief that everything in America since midcentury has been wrong-headed and a tragedy for white males.

And please understand: I look in the mirror all the time and think something tragic is happening to midcentury white males. They seem to be losing their hair and getting all wrinkly, for one thing. But this is not about malaise. What Sebesta has gathered, he believes, is evidence of a serious movement among educated people who are racist advocates of secession and a second civil war.

This might all be arcane were it not for the embrace of these people by the Republican Party. The party of Ronald Reagan and the Bushes has courted ultra-conservative Southerners avidly, even though their number includes people who are, according to Sebesta, closer politically to Timothy McVeigh than to Dwight Eisenhower.

Sebesta's work gradually earned him credibility in the 1990s. In 1998 Sebesta's archives were a source for reporters who did stories on Trent Lott's affiliation with the Council of Conservative Citizens, a far-right group. In 2000 Sebesta's files seem to have played a role in stories that contributed to the defeat of John Ashcroft by Missouri Governor Mel Carnahan in a run for the Senate. But the clearest case for his influence is in this most recent cycle of stories on Lott.

Last December 5, Senator Lott, the majority leader from Mississippi, addressed a 100th birthday party for Strom Thurmond, retiring Republican senator from South Carolina, who had been leader of the segregationist Dixiecrats in the 1940s. In the course of his remarks, Lott said: "I want to say this about my state. When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We're proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years, either."

Even though a dozen or so mainstream media reporters were present and heard Lott make the remarks, none was bestirred to write a story leading with the fact that one of the nation's most powerful leaders had just uttered a rejection of racial integration. Days later the story oozed into the news cycle from a single network television story.

When that report and a few subsequent iterations managed to ignite small sparks of controversy, Lott reverted to what is now common political street practice: He gave a little bit of an apology for the remarks, while also putting a little bit of English on them as a mere off-the-cuff gaffe, hoping to wet down the story through the critical 24-hour news cycle.

But in Trent Lott's remarks Ed Sebesta heard more than a casual gaffe. Apparently lulled into carelessness by his warmly receptive audience, the senator from Mississippi had spoken to the big audience in the vocabulary of radical rejectionism, normally uttered only before carefully sheltered audiences of like-minded souls. It was a gaffe the size of a Mack truck, and Sebesta was the man to put the pedal to the metal. He began immediately e-mailing key elements of his files on Lott, including an interview that Lott had given to the neo-Confederate magazine Southern Partisan for its fall 1984 edition.

Lott, who was then minority whip in the House, described the Republican Party as the party of Jefferson Davis, a smart slap in the face for those who'd been taught since grammar school that it was the party of Lincoln. In the interview Lott made reference to the Republican Platform adopted in Dallas at the Reagan '84 re-election convention.

At that convention 18 years ago, by the way, I heard the Reverend W.A. Criswell, pastor of Dallas' First Baptist Church, make remarks eerily similar to Lott's recent words. Criswell painted Dallas as a place that had successfully resisted much of the change brought about elsewhere in the civil rights years and suggested that the rest of the country would have been better off had it been able to follow Dallas' lead. Criswell's words then demonstrate to me that Lott's recent words were hardly off-the-cuff or a gaffe--more like the expression of a long-standing party line among Jeff Davis Dixiecans.

Ed Sebesta made sure that message got out.

In the past, Sebesta has been able to get his material before the public by working directly through major media reporters. In the birthday party blowup there was an intriguing intermediate role played by the relatively new phenomenon of bloggers. Forgive us all for not knowing: Bloggers are people who maintain private "Web logs" or Web pages in which they express their opinions and provide information. Much of what appears on Web logs is indecipherable babble, but a cadre of credentialed writer-reporters has entered the field, and some already have become go-to sources for major media reporters.

One of the most quoted of these is Washington blogger Joshua Micah Marshall, a regular contributor himself to major newspapers and magazines who also maintains a Web log called "Talking Points Memo" (www.j-marshall.com).

Marshall's Web log has been credited by a number of national reporters with having kept the Lott story alive, providing the doses of deep background that defeated Lott's serial attempts at spin.

What's striking about the birthday-party story is that it defied the typical logic of the news cycle: It started small, sputtered to nothing, smoldered for days and then leapt into flame later, after the major media had more or less abandoned it. In trying to explain the anomalous process of the story itself, Howard Kurtz in The Washington Post and Paul Krugman in The New York Times both mentioned bloggers in general and Marshall in particular. Krugman called Marshall's Web log "must reading for the politically curious" and said Marshall was "more than anyone else...responsible for making Trent Lott's offensive remarks the issue they deserve to be."

Marshall told me that Sebesta provided him much of the documentation he put on his page. "Ed was definitely a major resource for me in covering the Trent Lott story, and I know that he was for other journalists as well," Marshall said. "He [Sebesta] is a really important national figure."

Thomas B. Edsall of The Washington Post has written and co-authored some of the most influential stories on Trent Lott from 1998 until now. He told me that Sebesta has consistently been an important source during that entire span of time. "He has over the years provided me substantial material that has been very useful." Edsall said he began relying on Sebesta four years ago for stories on Lott's involvement with the Council of Conservative Citizens.

"Ed was crucial in that," Edsall said. He said in the birthday-party story that resulted in Lott's ouster as majority leader, the historical background was key. "The historical record has been crucial, and Ed is a guy who keeps track of things from the present to way, way back."

Peter Applebome at The New York Times gave me a nuanced view that probably is not far from what many reporters at his level think of Sebesta: "In his role as an accumulator and collector of information, he is without peer." He said Sebesta's archival material is invaluable for the light it sheds on "the vast world of people who are very, very loosely associated as neo-Confederate."

Applebome said he thinks neo-Confederates "range from groups that are either entirely benign and have benign qualities to groups that are Klan and worse, genuine hate groups.

"If there is a part of Ed that I am a bit skeptical about, it's that I don't know that his interpretations are always entirely ones that I would always agree with. But that really doesn't matter, because you're not really going to him for his interpretations. You're looking for what Trent Lott has said about neo-Confederates and where, and he will get it for you."

I don't disagree with Applebome. When I had lunch with Sebesta a week ago at Gloria's in Oak Cliff, I was struck again by two things. Sebesta is hard to understand when he expresses his views. But he makes more sense and sounds more cogent the more effort I invest.

He promised ominously that all his far-flung chickens may come home to roost in Dallas some day, given that this is where he started and that Dallas has always been home to a crypto-encampment of ultra-right rejectionist Jeff Davis Dixiecans. Maybe it's the effect of the holiday season, but, for me, just imagining those chickens winging their way home at last is like sugar plums dancing in my head.


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To: Just mythoughts
It was reasonable for Lott to think his words would not be controversial, because he had been saying much the same thing for years without anybody complaining. That's evidenced by the lack of reaction on the part of the reporters who were there and heard him. A couple of weeks later, Bob Schieffer of CBS (no right-winger he) apologized for not covering the story by saying he had dozed off (yeah, sure!) and that the words were part of Lott's Strom schtick.
21 posted on 01/11/2003 1:41:50 PM PST by aristeides
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To: Trajan88
Don't we know Sid Blumenthal had a role in this story? I wonder why he isn't mentioned here.
22 posted on 01/11/2003 1:43:25 PM PST by aristeides
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To: aristeides
Sid Blumenthal = slime. I don't like his face, make that his two faces.

Rest assured, he had a hand in the "story."

Trajan88; TAMU Class of '88

23 posted on 01/11/2003 1:51:57 PM PST by Trajan88
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To: sinkspur; Miss Marple; Howlin; PhiKapMom
Sink.... what do you know about this guy? His home page follows:

Temple of Democracy

24 posted on 01/11/2003 2:05:55 PM PST by deport
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To: deport
Well, it looks to me (from viewing that web page) like he thinks anyone who is at all sympathetic to the South is a neo-confederate. My guess is that his research, although nutty, turns up something useful to the liberal media from time to time.

The idea of a neo-confederate conspiracy among professionals is really pretty loony. I suppose only Sebesta knows about it, and all the rest of us are clueless. (Rolls eyes.)

25 posted on 01/11/2003 3:14:07 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
Yes sounds like he spends some time at his hobby... I was curious what Sink may remember but Oak Cliff is very exclusive if I remember correctly and both President Bush and VP Cheney owned homes in Dallas. I couldn't remember what area they lived in while there....
26 posted on 01/11/2003 3:42:38 PM PST by deport
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To: deport
Oak Cliff = S. of Trinity River = less $$ than Highland Park and various other parts N. of Trinity R.
27 posted on 01/11/2003 6:59:40 PM PST by aposiopetic
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To: aposiopetic
thanks... I couldn't remember but it was Highland Park I was thinking of.... I'm not from the area but do visit once in a while.
28 posted on 01/11/2003 7:09:02 PM PST by deport
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To: Trajan88
Of course, doing so would pop his little bubble that Democrats are as pure as driven snow.

You hit the nail on the head. Sebesta's a peculiar figure who exhibits some of the strangest tendencies of the radical left, not the least among them being that of double standards. He automatically directs hatred toward any and every conservative who has even done so much as flown a confederate flag, but when one of his own is an ex KKK Grand Kleagle who rants about "white n----rs" on national tv, he seems not to notice.

Unfortunately Sebesta's a tricky individual insofar as he masks his own radical affiliations to some degree. I have seen other freepers quote and link to his website to make pro-north/anti-south arguments, often without realizing what it was. This happened a while ago, prompting me to do a little research on the guy. Turn's out he's a radical activist for homosexual causes, which seems to be one of the major drives behind his anti-confederate PC mongering (he seems to think the confederacy is the root of all things opposed to his homo agenda). He's also a radical leftist with marxist political affiliations, including the Pacifica Radio Network, a marxist operation based out of Berkeley that is run by Mary Frances Berry of US Civil Rights Commission infamy. Sebesta's been a high profile guest on Pacifica, most notably when they brought him on as an "expert" to make the case that George W. Bush was "racist." From what I can tell, the only people who take him seriously are the radical university campus style left wingers, the rabid south haters, and, in some secrecy, liberal media reporters. Everybody else who knows about him can tell right away that he's a fruitcake.

29 posted on 01/11/2003 11:49:31 PM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: gusopol3
the reason why Sebesta is hard to understand is that he is probably schizophrenic along the lines of the Unabomber

I think this is very likely. I read a transcript a while ago of an interview Sebesta did on marxist Pacifica radio. He was ranting and raving as their "expert" on why George W. Bush was inherently a "racist." His arguments were incoherent babble and left wing nonsense, but he had what seemed like the full agreement of the show's two leftist hosts and its other guest, Princeton's James McPherson. For those who don't know this latter name, among those who do not know his marxist political affiliations, McPherson is considered one of the country's leading civil war historians.

Anyway, check out Sebesta's website. If you can wade through all the left wing bullsh*t, you'll find some very wierd motives behind his PC mongering. One theme that he keeps stressing over and over and over again is just plain bizarre - he seems to hate the confederacy because he seems to think it is the root of everything opposed to the radical homosexual agenda he also strongly advocates.

30 posted on 01/11/2003 11:55:45 PM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: 88keys
This seems very likely...do we have a bio. on him somewhere in the "archives"?!

I posted most of what I've been able to find about him in my previous two posts. Some stuff from him popped up on FR several months ago, and at the time I researched it and found lots of stuff confirming exactly what you suspect - the guy is a left wing marxist kook.

31 posted on 01/11/2003 11:59:01 PM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: deport
Just checked out that link again to Sebesta's home page. I found a reprinted article from a homo newspaper that said the following:

"Homophobia, though, is woven just as intricately through the ideological fibers of this movement as its thinly-veiled racism-maybe more, said Ed Sebesta, who is gay and a longtime researcher of the neo-Confederate movement."

I also just checked around the web a little for more about his politics. In addition to the Pacifica stuff, it seems that he's a regular interview topic in those weekly throw away leftist "alternative" newspapers around the nation. He seems to have a particularly strong presence in one such paper. It is called the "Touchstone" and is apparently some sort of leftist publication serving College Station, TX and Texas A&M (their main page is covered in stories and links about anti-death penalty activism and "no war in iraq" peacenik stuff). Sebesta has given interviews and "expert" consultation on political correctness controversies they've covered.

I searched some of their archives and it confirms what is hinted by his website - he's a leftist conspiracy nut who thinks that the confederacy is the root of all things opposed to his radical homosexual agenda. Here's an entry he apparently made in their website guestbook at http://www.rtis.com/touchstone/comments/

"358 ed sebesta (Dec 15 2002 64.53.32.31) Trent Lott hates fags, always remember GAY PRIDE USA 2003 March on Washington. AIDS is just a bump in the road, hang in there my brothers!"

32 posted on 01/12/2003 12:37:09 AM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: stainlessbanner; billbears; 4ConservativeJustices
Check out my last post. I was doing a little web search on Sebesta's latest charade and stumbled across a guestbook entry he made to a radical left wing "alternative" newspaper at Texas A&M (and I'm sure it and its four readers are popularity magnets on that campus!). It's a message of encouragement to Sebesta's fellow homos urging them to "hang in there my brothers."

Well guess what. It gets even kookier. It turns out that Sebesta's now writing articles for the leftist "alternative" paper, called the Touchstone.

As you would probably expect, they are nutty off the wall crackpot rants and every one of them boils down to a confederate conspiracy to deny his homo agenda.

To give you a sample, he's got one article on their site titled "From the Alamo to Kosovo: The Anti-Muslim/Hispanic Movement in Texas." It's at http://www.rtis.com/touchstone/sum02/09.HTM if you want a heavy dose of poorly written conspiracy theory rantings.

Others are articles opposing Phil Gramm's candidacy as A&M president, a lengthy piece claiming that George W. Bush is a racist, and typical the south hating pro homosexual rants that dominate his website.

33 posted on 01/12/2003 1:12:15 AM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
Thanks. Yes he seems like a leftist from what little I saw on his web site. I didn't spend any time searching through the drivel. But all that said I guess he did or could serve as a source of dated statements about Lott and others most likely.
34 posted on 01/12/2003 7:19:29 AM PST by deport
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To: stainlessbanner
How long til the Sebesta Fan Club shows up?

I doubt they will, unless they seek a quote to support their position.

35 posted on 01/12/2003 8:44:01 AM PST by 4CJ
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To: GOPcapitalist
Then again, after reading your post above, I wonder if they'll continue to rely on Sebesta for quotes ;o)
36 posted on 01/12/2003 9:00:56 AM PST by 4CJ
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To: 4ConservativeJustices; billbears; stainlessbanner; WhiskeyPapa
I doubt they will, unless they seek a quote to support their position.

Then let's give it a try. I strongly believe a little taunting will do the job...

HEY WLAT! Abe Lincoln was a liar, fraud, tyrant, and smelt of elderberries. That temple of heretics to him in Washington D.C. is a blasphemous mark on our nation's landscape and the people who worship there practice an organized idolatry of sin and lies. The Lincoln's defender-in-chief "Noam" McPherson is a third rate historian who peddles the product of his marxist political affiliations in the form of south-hating propaganda manifestos fraudulently disguised as legitimate history. His advocate and Pacifica radio associateEd Sebesta is a paranoid PC-mongering homosexual marxist freak of nature who has never seen a confederate tombstone that he did not want removed and paved over. So there. Come defend your idols and heroes if you dare, Clinton boy.

...If that doesn't get them here, nothing will.

37 posted on 01/12/2003 3:23:28 PM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: Trajan88
Great article;thanks for posting it.

Walt

38 posted on 01/12/2003 5:03:58 PM PST by WhiskeyPapa (To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men)
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To: Trajan88
Sebesta sounds like a small-time Morris Dees to me.
39 posted on 01/12/2003 6:38:54 PM PST by Aurelius
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To: billbears; 4ConservativeJustices; stainlessbanner
Looks like the Wlat Brigade has arrived, and yes - it's leader is already singing praises for the article about his south-hating homo marxist hero.
40 posted on 01/12/2003 11:06:32 PM PST by GOPcapitalist
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