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Jobless, and Stunned
New Marx Times ^
| 1/9/03
| Herbert
Posted on 01/09/2003 11:04:50 AM PST by pabianice
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To: dirtboy
Left behind by the great Republican raid on the national Treasury They speak of it as if it's some sort of natural resource.
21
posted on
01/09/2003 1:01:11 PM PST
by
Howlin
(Confused from all the spinning.)
To: vannrox
Fact. Most of those laid off are in the age group of 35 to 45. Have to disagree here. Most of those I know who have been laid off are between 45 and 65. No one will hire any older workers because they don't want to incur any retirement benefits or medical benefits for older people who need more medical care.
To: Howlin
They speak of it as if it's some sort of natural resource.To them, it is - it's the mother lode for liberalism...
23
posted on
01/09/2003 2:00:16 PM PST
by
dirtboy
To: Howlin
Ms. Escobar has taken the president's policies somewhat personally. "I'm a Republican and I'm not ashamed to say it," she said. "But I'm very upset that they have done nothing for us."
I asked if she had voted for Mr. Bush. "I sure did," she said, then added, "I feel very betrayed."
To: PBRSTREETGANG
As an aside, the NY Times has gone up to $1 for the regular local edition. Not sure why it's so costly now, since they seem to make up many of the stories themselves. Their advertisers are bailing-out; they can smell a dying paper. So the newstand price is raised to help offset the declining ad revenue.
To: ICE-FLYER
obvious bias against the GOP and BushHello, he's an opinion columnist. He's paid for having a bias. Complaining about his "bias" against Bush and the GOP is like claiming Ann Coulter is "biased" against Democrats. This is an op-ed, not a news article. If you want to complain about the NY times news articles being biased, fine- there's plenty of fodder. But complaining about an op-ed being "biased" will just give Herbert a good laugh.
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posted on
01/09/2003 2:05:45 PM PST
by
laurav
To: vannrox
Man what a Biased article!See post 26. This is an op-ed, it's supposed to have a viewpoint. People read the opinion page for opinions, and that's the page Herbert writes for. Complain if he's wrong, or thick-headed or the like, but he's supposed to be "biased."
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posted on
01/09/2003 2:07:46 PM PST
by
laurav
To: pabianice
www.monster.com
wwww.hotjobs.com
www.careerbuilders.com
But she learned another language...she could MOVE!
28
posted on
01/09/2003 2:09:41 PM PST
by
kcvl
To: pabianice
I am sorry and I know I will get flamed. But, I have to laugh when single people with no kids act like they can't find a job and the whole world is about to come crashing down on them.
I think if I had to and were single, I could live on a $10 an hour job. I wouldn't be living well and I wouldn't like it one bit-but I think I could do it.
29
posted on
01/09/2003 2:13:57 PM PST
by
riri
Comment #30 Removed by Moderator
To: plain talk
Their unemployment is at least in part due to the high levels of taxation on people and Corporations who have less money left over to make purchases, expand businesses and create jobs. As usual the ones who cause the mess seek to blame those who try to fix it. Unemployment is also due in part to the corporations creating jobs outside of America and bringing immigrants (legal and illegal) into America for cheap labor. The working class must be thrilled with Bush's economic package geared towards stockholders and the unemployed... There doesn't seem to be anything in the package to create incentives for companies to stay in America and hire working class Americans. And the silence on H1b visas is deafening.
To: Non-Sequitur
soon-to-be-laid-off bump Sorry to hear that. I wish you well. Good luck and may you find a new job very soon.
To: plain talk
" Their unemployment is at least in part due to the high levels of taxation on people and Corporations who have less money left over to make purchases, expand businesses and create jobs. As usual the ones who cause the mess seek to blame those who try to fix it. " Excellent point. Last night Scott Pelley did a piece on 60 Min II about the unemployed. Not once did he even mention the possibility that your point was a factor. I sent him a nice email, explaining that to him, and congratulating him on their lost viewership.
To: pabianice
Strikes me as peculiar. I have worked for myself for the last 15 years, and found myself without work when my business failed after the initial economic slowdown and 9/11 was the icing on the cake. I finally decided to get a job and going online found several I liked. I have landed the third job I found at a very handsome salary. I have a hard time believing that all these people cannot find work.
I am not a computer programmer or in the high tech field.
To: pabianice
We see once again that The Times is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Pelosi Democrats...
notice how The Times assumes"The Times" did not assume anything. "The Times" did not write this article, or endorse it as bias-free. This is not a news article, it's an OPINION article, in the OPINION section. OPINION writers have the right to be opinionated or even biased. NEWS articles matter, OPINION articles do not. This is not a case of media bias, or of the Times making dumb assumptions.
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posted on
01/09/2003 2:40:49 PM PST
by
xm177e2
To: pabianice; madfly
Announced yesterday that a company here was closing, 800 people will be unemployed March 1...Seeing the government does not want anyone to know the real numbers anymore I thought I'd let ya all know..
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posted on
01/09/2003 2:40:59 PM PST
by
RnMomof7
(LET THEM EAT CALKE..I've got mine)
To: vannrox
Here's a fact. These people will probably HAVE to change careers. They shouldn't expect everyone else to support them so they can look for a job like the one they had. I'm a Realtor. My business cratered for about a year, and I got a job waiting tables during that time. Why can't they? Because they are an engineer? Get a job, any job.
To: pabianice
At 65 those people do not need company medical benefits and retirement benefits if they are part of the Company benefits package, go to everyone, why not someone over 45. That does not make sense.
To: plain talk
Their unemployment is at least in part due to the high levels of taxation on people and Corporations who have less money left over to make purchases, expand businesses and create jobs. As usual the ones who cause the mess seek to blame those who try to fix it.May have been true 10 years ago,..today if the government imposed regulations and all taxes were dropped the jobs would still go to the lowest bidder..RED CHINA..
BTW the governments own numbers say most Large Corporations pay no taxes...
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posted on
01/09/2003 2:44:35 PM PST
by
RnMomof7
(LET THEM EAT CALKE..I've got mine)
To: babyface00
>I'm also surprised how many 35-45 year olds were up to their eyeballs in debt, despite making some phenomenal salaries a few years back.
Did they really think it would last forever? Traditionally,
in America, people
assume that things will
get better! My dad
didn't hesitate to take
a mortgage or loan
because middle class
life meant continuity.
Only recently
has the idea
of continuity turned
into a big joke.
Sure. Life's a jungle.
But here in America
we had beat it back...
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