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Sex runs rampant in the Catholic Church
Capitol Hill Blue ^ | January 9, 2003 | DOUG THOMPSON

Posted on 01/09/2003 7:54:21 AM PST by arj

Recent revelations that at least 40 percent of Catholic nuns in the United States are victims of sexual abuse are just part of a growing sex scandal in the Church that goes far beyond the abuse of young boys by priests.

Capitol Hill Blue has learned that internal investigations by the Church have uncovered massive evidence of frequent sexual activity by both nuns and priests (often with each other), use of Church money to pay for abortions for pregnant nuns and a “casual and tolerant attitude towards sexual activity among Church leaders.”

Details of the investigations are a closely guarded secret of the Church hierarchy, but sources tell CHB that the results are being closely studied by Vatican officials who express “shock and outrage” at the high levels of sex involving priests and nuns.

“For God’s sake, this is the Church. It is not a bordello,” exclaimed one priest involved in the investigation. “This is a crime against God.”

In interviews with current nuns and priests, as well as with a number of clergy who have left the church, a disturbing portrait of immoral activity within Church walls emerges, including:

--Priests who regularly have sex with female parishioners. According to two sources, as many as 5,000 priests in the U.S. have been discovered to have had affairs with parishioners.

--At least 34,000 nuns who admit sexual abuse or activity.

--Frequent sexual contact between priests and nuns. The investigations are said to have found “dozens” of cases where nuns who became pregnant from these affairs had abortions paid for out of Church funds (even though the Church opposes abortions).

--Hundreds of confirmed reports of lesbian sexual encounters among nuns as well as homosexual contact between priests.

--Hundreds of cases where priests and nuns leave the Church and marry shortly afterwards, many having children conceived while they were still Church clergy.

“You are dealing with human beings with human failings,” admits Jonathan, an ex-priest who left the Church years ago and married a former nun. Their oldest child was conceived during an affair when both were still in the Church. Jonathan agreed to be interviewed only on condition that neither his last name nor his wife’s name be used for this article.

“Yes, we both took vows of chastity but we broke those vows,” he says. “We weren’t the only ones. I knew several priests in my diocese who broke their vows as well. My wife knew many nuns who violated their vows.”

Jonathan says stories about rampant sexual activity among priests and nuns circulated in the Church for years but that Catholic leaders looked the other way.

“There were two hypocrisies at work,” he says. “One because some of the Church leaders were, themselves, unfaithful to their vows and the other because everyone knew the damage to the church if this ever became public.”

Only when confronted with the revelations last year of widespread abuse of children and the subsequent cover up has the church taken a closer look at the sexual activity.

"The bishops appear to be only looking at the issue of child sexual abuse, but the problem is bigger than that," says St. Louis University researcher Ann Wolf, one of those who authored the study on widespread sexual abuse of nuns. "Catholic sisters are being violated, in their ministries, at work, in pastoral counseling."

St. Louis University conducted a national survey of nuns in 1996 but the Church-affiliated school never publicly released the results. The study, paid for by several of the nun orders, was turned over to the Church. Wolf and the other researchers found 34,000 nuns who had been either sexually abused or engaged in sexual activity.

“What they found were those who admitted it,” says Jonathan. “There were, and are, many others.”

Jonathan admits his wife was not his first sexual partner while he wore the robes of priesthood. He had affairs with female parishioners and other nuns.

“It was all done with a wink and a nod,” he says. “Just about everybody knew what was happening but nobody wanted to do anything about it.”

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops claims to know nothing of the studies and refuses to comment on the specifics of this article. Phone calls to various Catholic officials and Vatican offices were not returned.


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To: Incorrigible
It'd be cool to shag a nun.....
41 posted on 01/09/2003 10:10:39 AM PST by IvanT
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To: eastsider
All this business about sex in the Catholic church reminds me of the brouhaha over cigarettes. That they cause health problems is nothing new, but people winning big lawsuits because "they didn't know"? We were calling them coffin nails fifty years ago!

Fifty years ago my dad was a cop in Nashville. He went on many a call to the Bishops private residence (owned by the church!) where loud, wild orgies were routine. His descriptions of what he saw made my hair stand on end!

Why is everybody suddenly pretending to be shocked over all this?

42 posted on 01/09/2003 10:13:04 AM PST by babylonian
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To: LiteKeeper
Skew biblical teaching, in this case about sex and relationships, and you will see a skewing of lives. the Roman Catholic Church has not done anyone a favor by insisting on an unnatural state for its clergy!

So... I suppose Christ himself, who was unmarried and celibate, was living in an unnatural state? If He asks you about this statement on the Day of Reckoning, how would you answer Him?
43 posted on 01/09/2003 10:13:09 AM PST by Antoninus
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To: IvanT
That is not a "habit" you would want to get into (or under).
44 posted on 01/09/2003 10:13:10 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: babylonian
My neighbor, in the 1980s, was a practicing homosexual when he joined the seminary. After joining, he would have cookouts and parties at his house with fellow seminary students, brothers and an occasional priest.

It looked like a seen from Caligula. Oiled backrubs and all.

Gave me the ebbies.
45 posted on 01/09/2003 10:17:26 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: stuartcr
If you would truly like to learn about these things, please, consult our Catholic Cathechism. If this is some kind of exercise to teach me the errors of Catholic teaching, well, consult the same source.
46 posted on 01/09/2003 10:17:45 AM PST by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: Antoninus
So you actually know that Christ was unmarried and celibate? It was a pretty long time ago.
47 posted on 01/09/2003 10:19:13 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: Bluntpoint
There's a lot of that going on in the American Catholic Church. It saddens me deeply and has made me something of a dissident.
48 posted on 01/09/2003 10:19:33 AM PST by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: stuartcr
If you believe in a sexual free-for-all, Christianity isn't the religion for you.

There are people other than clergy who find themselves in a position of restraining their sexuality so as not to commit sin. Widows, widowers, single people.

The other reason is that in the Christian next life, there is no sex, so you can get a head start here. Regular enjoyment of sex, while normal if one is doing it with one's lawful spouse, *can* alter your spiritual priorities.

In an orderly society, sexual discipline really works for the good of all, whereas we now see in our society the downside of sexual laxity.

If sexuality weren't regulated to some extent, society as we know it would completely collapse. In other words, you can't just always do it because it feels good without severe consequences. Better to get a handle on it while you can and if you can.

49 posted on 01/09/2003 10:19:35 AM PST by Aliska
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To: Incorrigible
Who's surprised at any of this? Human beings are going to do human things. The sex drive is very powerful. Sins against the sixth and ninth commandments are sins of weakness, which, in the overall scheme of things, is at the bottom of the stack, if one ranked sins according to malice.
50 posted on 01/09/2003 10:19:39 AM PST by sinkspur
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To: Petronski
I would never attempt to teach anyone anything, I just wanted to know why you thought this way, not the church.
51 posted on 01/09/2003 10:21:47 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: stuartcr
So you actually know that Christ was unmarried and celibate? It was a pretty long time ago.

Well, that tells me all I need to know about where you're coming from.... the Martin Scorsese sect of "Christianity".
52 posted on 01/09/2003 10:23:14 AM PST by Antoninus
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To: Aliska
Remember, in the Catholic church, masturbation is considered sexual sin. If honesty was ensured through complete anonymity in the course of conducting the survey, some may have admitted, from their guilt, self-gratification that may have been engaged in only once. The Catholic church has an unhealty attitude about this practice, and if they had been more accepting of it, they probably wouldn't have as many lawsuits pending as they do.
53 posted on 01/09/2003 10:23:40 AM PST by hunter112
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To: Aliska
It is not just sex. It is the natural longing for family and commitment.

To crave such a life is not akin to a sexual free-for-all.

To deny your church leaders this, is unnatural and leads to the delusional thinking of many of today's adherents that what is happening in the church today and 100 years ago, is and wasn't happening.

You can claim the moral highground by demanding such. But look what you have as a result.

54 posted on 01/09/2003 10:25:16 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: arj
This disgusting article brought to you by AmChurch, soon to be an unaffiliated subsidiary of the Roman Catholic Church.
55 posted on 01/09/2003 10:25:41 AM PST by Antoninus
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To: Aliska
I don't believe in a sexual free-for-all, and I'm not a Christian. I believe that society regulates itself without taking oaths. As you said yourself, there are many individuals that do the same, without taking an oath. You know what is in the next life?
56 posted on 01/09/2003 10:29:28 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: Antoninus
This disgusting article brought to you by AmChurch, soon to be an unaffiliated subsidiary of the Roman Catholic Church.

Ha! It's not just "AmChurch." It's very common for priests in South America to live in open concubinage.

57 posted on 01/09/2003 10:29:35 AM PST by sinkspur
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To: Antoninus
How about my first hand reporting about members of the Cincinnati Seminary? Is that disgusting (read untrue or biased) also?

58 posted on 01/09/2003 10:30:44 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Cicero
It is a much older problem than that - you've been deluded.
59 posted on 01/09/2003 10:30:49 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine (Yes, I'm a statist neocon RINO imperialist. Do you got a problem with that?)
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To: Antoninus
I take that as a yes....Martin Scorsese Christianity???
60 posted on 01/09/2003 10:31:13 AM PST by stuartcr
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