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To: ambrose
Oh, common!

Have you ever gone through one of those shooting trials where you have about 2 seconds to react before someone bad blows you away or you shoot a pregnant woman by mistake?

If you had a dog run in front of you, would you swerve into a child into order to avoid hitting the dog?

Whatever, the possible danger to the cop was real. Maybe you haven't seen dog bites that ripped off the lower lip of a child or large gapes in someone's arm, but I have.

Drug dealers often train their dogs to attack and kill, so there was no way for the cop to know what he was facing. Hindsight is wonderful. But if it had been my dog, I would have cried and then comforted the cop and told him not to feel guilty.

10 posted on 01/09/2003 12:37:07 AM PST by patriciaruth
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To: patriciaruth
...but if it had been my dog, I would have cried and then comforted the cop and told him not to feel guilty...

'Comforted the cop'???

Patricia, if it had been your dog, you would have been cuffed, and down on the asphalt, at the time of the shooting. Are you honestly trying to tell us that your primary emotion in that circumstance would be compassion towards the shooter?

18 posted on 01/09/2003 2:03:24 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: patriciaruth
, I would have cried and then comforted the cop and told him not to feel guilty.

Yes, but you're a statist lap dog sheep.

20 posted on 01/09/2003 2:05:17 AM PST by DAnconia55 (Did I mention Unions are evil?)
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To: patriciaruth
But if it had been my dog, I would have cried and then comforted the cop and told him not to feel guilty.

Would that be before or after you licked his jack-boots?

You apologists for this kind of police behavior make me sick. Cops are supposed to protect and serve, in this case they did not.

Anyone with an IQ above room temperature should have figured out within 5 seconds that these were NOT bank robbers.

These cops are criminals.

21 posted on 01/09/2003 2:07:54 AM PST by ActionNewsBill
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To: patriciaruth
If that is what police call a 'threatening dog', they might as well shoot every pooch they see on sight -- that dog was OBVIOUSLY not a threat. Having watched the video, the dog isn't lunging, in fact, he's trotting up to the officer, tail wagging!

You're quite the apologist, patricaruth.

That cop needs to be fired. If that's how he reacts to an approaching dog, whilst he's got a shotgun at his own disposal (not to mention about a half-dozen other officers), then he's just not the kind of guy I want wielding the power of lethal force.

22 posted on 01/09/2003 2:10:26 AM PST by zoyd
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To: patriciaruth
But if it had been my dog, I would have cried and comforted the cop and told him not to feel guilty.

I think I'm going to be sick.

23 posted on 01/09/2003 2:17:54 AM PST by Ken H
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To: patriciaruth
And then you would've gotten your kneepads out.
24 posted on 01/09/2003 2:20:06 AM PST by A.J.Armitage (Attacks on women? They'll tax anything these days.)
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To: patriciaruth
Why would he need comforting, anyway? Right about then, he'd be thinking, "I killed something! Forget those problems with 'little softy', I'm a MAN!"
26 posted on 01/09/2003 2:24:49 AM PST by A.J.Armitage (Attacks on women? They'll tax anything these days.)
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To: patriciaruth
The last incident I had along these lines was with 4 large to medium sized dogs at night. The pack leader was a male that was approaching straight on, growling, barking and with teeth bared. The others were following his lead a couple of steps behind them. I pulled my stun gun and just discharged it in front of them and the whole pack turned tail and ran like hell.

I didn't have to stun any of them, mase them, or shoot them. This officer's story is a bunch of crap.

He's probably one of those 'cat lovers' that hate dogs.

33 posted on 01/09/2003 2:58:28 AM PST by 4Freedom
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To: patriciaruth
b-a-a-a-a-a-a-h
you are a sheep
40 posted on 01/09/2003 3:58:11 AM PST by error99
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To: patriciaruth
"...But if it had been my dog, I would have cried and then comforted the cop and told him not to feel guilty..."

The lunacy of this statement is literally breathtaking.

It has to be poorly presented sarcasm.

47 posted on 01/09/2003 4:44:57 AM PST by DWSUWF
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To: patriciaruth
Uh, they were too LAZY to shut the car doors, and how many dogs do YOU know who understand "Get back"?

MY dog understands sit, lay down, stay....NOT "Get back!!".
57 posted on 01/09/2003 6:28:56 AM PST by Politicalmom
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To: patriciaruth
" Whatever, the possible danger to the cop was real."

So much for what you know about dogs. The dog's tail was up and wagging per the witnesses and the video. Dogs only attack when their tails are down. That cop was in more danger from shooting himself than that innocent family and their dog.

"Maybe you haven't seen dog bites that ripped off the lower lip of a child or large gapes in someone's arm, but I have."

Yes, and we've all heard but not seen about the sniper shooting Mrs. Weaver armed with a danerous loaded infant in her arms. What next, are you going to defend the Gestapo hauling Jews off to the camps?

" Drug dealers often train their dogs to attack and kill, so there was no way for the cop to know what he was facing."

God forbid he actually did his job and ask questions and do what the family requested and shut the *** damn door to the car. He was too busy flexing and playing with his toys.

"But if it had been my dog, I would have cried and then comforted the cop and told him not to feel guilty."

So if the cops kick the door in on your mother or grandmother's home at 3 a.m. on a no-knock raid and "accidently" shoot her even though they had the wrong address, are you going to "comfort the cop and tell him not to feel guilty" also?
60 posted on 01/09/2003 6:35:35 AM PST by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: patriciaruth
But if it had been my dog, I would have cried and then comforted the cop and told him not to feel guilty.

My ass. I'd have told the trigger happy, Barney Fife acting redneck that he'd best be watching his back the rest of his days.

61 posted on 01/09/2003 6:36:34 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine (Yes, I'm a statist neocon RINO imperialist. Do you gotta problem with that?)
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In fact, I have a solution. Line cops should be armed only with a billyclub, mace and a stun gun.

As far as I'm concerned, giving them firearms has been a huge mistake.

Yes, there should be a backup crew of gun trained officers that are called in after an unarmed officer sees a gun, but they have proven, time and again, that they cannot interact with ordinary citizens while carrying firearms.

65 posted on 01/09/2003 6:40:08 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine (Yes, I'm a statist neocon RINO imperialist. Do you gotta problem with that?)
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Wow. If I ever turn meglomaniac and want to enslave an entire population, a few million like you would be quite handy.
68 posted on 01/09/2003 6:42:34 AM PST by Republic of Texas
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To: patriciaruth
What's the matter with you? Trying to inject common sense into a thread filled (I can only guess) with 60's refugees still carrying guilty grudges against The Man? What got into you?

< /sarcasm >

Dan

70 posted on 01/09/2003 6:44:06 AM PST by BibChr
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To: patriciaruth
Hindsight is wonderful. But if it had been my dog, I would have cried and then comforted the cop and told him not to feel guilty.

After you'd been handcuffed kneeling, and after they'd ignored your pleas to close the doors to keep the dogs from getting out?

It was a bogus stop. Had they been "serving and protecting" instead of playing macho cop, this whole tragedy would never have happened.

73 posted on 01/09/2003 6:48:55 AM PST by jimt
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To: patriciaruth
I might tend to agree with you had the owner not requested that the doors be shut to keep the dogs inside.

The officers knew there were dogs in the vehicle, it was not a "surprise attack" by no means. The cops were bullies and the tape shows exactly that. There is no excuse for what they have done and I hope the family sues the ever lovin' pants off them.

We do have a police state here folks... just look at that video.
75 posted on 01/09/2003 6:50:47 AM PST by myrabach
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To: patriciaruth
Watch the video. That dog was waggingits tail!!! Dogs don't wag their tails when they are attacking anyone. The policeman, to use the term lightly, clearly turns and aims his shotgun at the dog, and three seconds was all it took from the time the dog appears to the time he was lying dead at the side of the road. Don't feel too badly, Patricia, you will have lots more chances to apologize for the JBs in the near future. Enjoy!
76 posted on 01/09/2003 6:51:12 AM PST by renosathug
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To: patriciaruth
I would have cried and then comforted the cop and told him not to feel guilty.

I would have done the same thing. AFTER I beat the living hell out of the cop for violating my rights and killing my dog.


80 posted on 01/09/2003 7:00:44 AM PST by unixfox
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