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To: patriciaruth
Wow. If I ever turn meglomaniac and want to enslave an entire population, a few million like you would be quite handy.
68 posted on 01/09/2003 6:42:34 AM PST by Republic of Texas
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To: Republic of Texas
"Wow. If I ever turn meglomaniac and want to enslave an entire population, a few million like you would be quite handy."

Funny you'd mention that: seems like you're well on your way already!

99 posted on 01/09/2003 7:43:57 AM PST by Redbob
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To: Swordmaker
After watching the video several times, I have several problems with this "felony stop."

At 17:20:10 on the tape, a THP officer moves up to the driver's side of the "suspect" vehicle and shines his flashlight into the car. At the same time, Mr. Smoaks tells the officers that he has dogs in the car. At this point, the THP officer should have seen the dogs as well. It was his duty at that time to recognize the danger these dogs posed to highway traffic and the safety of the officers and "suspects" - and contain the dogs. Failure to do so led to Patton, coming out of the car. This was NOT following proper procedure and should be shown in a civil suit as negligence.

Second, at 17:20:30 Mr. Smoaks clearly says he has dogs in the car and doesn't want them jumping out. At this time the officer who had approached the vehicle (I'd like to know which THP officer this was - I'm betting Lt. Jerry Andrews) was shining his flashlight down on Mr. Smoaks hands as a second THP officer was cuffing him and the third THP officer had cuffed Mrs. Smoaks and was now cuffing their son. There is no reason this officer could not, and should not, have secured the dogs in the car.

Third, Patton comes out of the car soon after Mr. Smoaks second warning, 17:20:35, perhaps 15 seconds after the THP officer should have identified the dogs and secured them. It was this negligence and improper procedure that led to Patton being shot.

Finally, I question Officer Hall's use of deadly force, but he'll beat any questions on this because he backed away from the dog and finally shot Patton at point blank range.

I found it very interesting that after Patton was shot and the THP officer cuffing the Smoaks son finished, he moved up to the vehicle at 17:21:02 and finally closed the door.
112 posted on 01/09/2003 8:19:01 AM PST by optimistically_conservative
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