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TV Ads Say S.U.V. Owners Support Terrorists
New York Times ^
| Jan. 7, 2003
| KATHARINE Q. SEELYE
Posted on 01/08/2003 11:57:05 AM PST by MrLeRoy
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To: tallhappy
You keep asking me about it. Liar, I asked you about it ONCE. (And the question did not obligate a defense---you could have repudiated your sleazy train of thought.)
I don't follow your comment about God and legality etc...
That's a shame.
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posted on
01/09/2003 1:36:18 PM PST
by
MrLeRoy
To: Crusher138
Sometimes they are silly, often they are valid.Shouldn't we oppose the silly ones? Is banning pot while (mostly) allowing alcohol valid or silly?
Their whimsey or seriousness notwithstanding, they are the law and we are not allowed to pick and choose which laws we will and won't obey without consequence.
Straw man; nobody here has claimed otherwise.
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posted on
01/09/2003 1:39:26 PM PST
by
MrLeRoy
To: Shermy
Which in no way explains why they can't be more efficient. They can be, but that doesn't profit an auto manufacturer, so they don't.
"efficiency", like value, is an attributed quality, the definition of which depends upon the perceived needs of the one doing the valuation.
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posted on
01/09/2003 1:39:45 PM PST
by
aruanan
To: MrLeRoy
I didn't say you shouldn't oppose the law if you find it silly. I personally do not find the prohibition of marijauna to be silly. Alcohol is deeply ingrained into our society and while removing it may be a noble cause, it has proven historically to be a futile one. But because one lion is out of its cage, that is no reason to let all the animals out of the zoo.
As to my "straw man" - I was under the impression that there are many who decide certain laws are silly and proceed to ignore them. Are you telling me that among those who argue in favor of legalizing certain drugs, there isn't a certain number, possibly a majority, who use those drugs themselves and wish to have the law changed so they can continue to do so without the threat of prosecution?
To: MrLeRoy
That's a shame. It's not a shame, but an example where you didn't make sense.
To: MrLeRoy
Have you smoked crack yet? If not, go smoke some and get back to me on your position on drugs.
To: Crusher138
I personally do not find the prohibition of marijauna to be silly. Alcohol is deeply ingrained into our society and while removing it may be a noble cause, it has proven historically to be a futile one. But because one lion is out of its cage, that is no reason to let all the animals out of the zoo.70 million Americans have used pot---that animal is also out of the zoo. And why is it "valid" and "noble" to ban susbstances that most people use responsibly?
As to my "straw man" - I was under the impression that there are many who decide certain laws are silly and proceed to ignore them.
But not with the expactation that it will necessarily be "without consequences."
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posted on
01/09/2003 1:52:17 PM PST
by
MrLeRoy
To: tallhappy
It's not a shame, but an example where you didn't make sense. Poppycock---I made perfect sense. I see nobody but you claiming to not understand it.
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posted on
01/09/2003 1:53:22 PM PST
by
MrLeRoy
To: Republic of Texas
Have you smoked crack yet? If not, go smoke some and get back to me on your position on drugs. If you can convince me it has any possibility of mattering to my pro-freedom position, I will.
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posted on
01/09/2003 1:54:37 PM PST
by
MrLeRoy
To: MrLeRoy
No one else is even paying attention to you. I'm being very indulgent with you.
To: tallhappy
No one else is even paying attention to you.Typical Drug Warrior delusions of omniscience.
I'm being very indulgent with you.
What you're being is a fool. While that does indulge my desire for entertainment, please feel free to stop.
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posted on
01/09/2003 2:04:00 PM PST
by
MrLeRoy
To: MrLeRoy
No one will convince you, that much is obvious. However you have NO IDEA how addictive crack is. It doesn't matter if it's legal or not, people who smoke crack WILL violate the rights of their fellow citizens in one way or another. If you don't believe me, try some.
To: Republic of Texas
However you have NO IDEA how addictive crack is.More so than heroin? Even John Walters' ONDCP admits that there are 250,000 to 500,000 nonaddicted heroin users?
It doesn't matter if it's legal or not, people who smoke crack WILL violate the rights of their fellow citizens in one way or another.
Non sequitur; another person's addictedness does not intrinsically violate any of my rights.
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posted on
01/09/2003 2:06:36 PM PST
by
MrLeRoy
To: JennysCool
Frankly, saying hasta la vista to my 13 mpg Navigator and hello to a 23 mpg Volvo V70 station wagon is hardly a sacrifice. But it's a start. Maybe I'll plant a victory garden in the backseat.
Yeah, screw the American company, Ford, and give aid and comfort to Sweden.
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posted on
01/09/2003 2:16:50 PM PST
by
aruanan
To: Republic of Texas
The problem with these drug legalization warriors is they are clueless. They remind me of the other utopian dreamers.
To: MrLeRoy
Yes it does. When they steal to get money, it violates someone's rights. When they end up in the hospital emergency room, and we have to pay for it, it violates someone's rights. When they go to jail, for strealing, we have to pay for it, it violates someone's rights.
To: aruanan
Actually, Ford now OWNS Volvo.
To: MrLeRoy
If you prefer heroin, go do that instead.
To: JennysCool
"Frankly, saying hasta la vista to my 13 mpg Navigator and hello to a 23 mpg Volvo V70 station wagon is hardly a sacrifice. But it's a start. Maybe I'll plant a victory garden in the backseat."
In other words:
"I supported terrorists with my 13mpg Navigator. But I have to drive about 76% more miles to support the same number of terrorists with my 23mpg Volvo."
The woman is as ditzy as she's always sounded.
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posted on
01/09/2003 2:21:28 PM PST
by
aruanan
To: Republic of Texas
More so than heroin? Even John Walters' ONDCP admits that there are 250,000 to 500,000 nonaddicted heroin usersIf you prefer heroin, go do that instead.
Nonresponsive evasion.
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posted on
01/09/2003 2:22:27 PM PST
by
MrLeRoy
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