Posted on 01/06/2003 6:58:16 AM PST by SheLion
We don't think you have a problem, we know.
He doesn't have to, you just sank.
Quote of the day D1!
What all of you smoker's rights types do not want to face up to: People who stink up an enclosed place are just plain rude, whether it be with perfume, car exhaust, or tobacco. Your mothers didn't teach you good manners, and you think it's your right to be rude. Unbelievable!
Let the other guy go down the street while I stink up the place. If you guys had been a little less arrogant about your right to foul the air indoors, then public opinion wouldn't have turned against you and today you wouldn't be on the wrong side of "the man".
Another pet peeve. Keep your damn butts in the garbage where they belong. I constantly see smokers flip their butts out their car window because they don't want to stink up their own car. It's impossible to walk down a public beach without getting cigarette butts between your toes. It's disgusting. It's your own fault that public opinion has turned against you.
Now there you go making sense, our mayor said that a ban would bring out all the non-smokers..... didn't happen, it seem non-smokers are for the most part stay at home kind of folks.
Everything's the same...rights are not lost all at one time because people would fight back and see that it didn't happen. They are willingly thrown away for others who have been deemed "unworthy." But every right lost for anyone is a right lost for everyone. You keep implying that people are FORCED to be in smoker-friendly places where they might be annoyed or made sick, but that's never been true and the bans have nothing to do with it.
It is a great idea that has been a blessing in CA that needs to go nationwide. IMO!
You and your friends may be happy with the People's Republik of Kalifornia and its jackbooted thugs, but many real people were hurt and will never recover financially from your one-size-fits-all liberal thinking.
Bet you were "educated" right here in the Golden State, weren't you?
Your fascist ideas have lowered society until it's nearly unrecognizable. What's the difference?
How? Has anyone ever put a gun to your head and FORCED you into a smoker-friendly place? Did you not have the CHOICE to go to a place that didn't permit smoking? Or do you, like other antis, demand it all....just in case you someday might want to enter a place? No need to answer, your attitudes are plain as day.
Not in Kookiefornia. And it soon will be prohibited in one's own home and car as well because people like you and A CA Guy have greased the slippery slope with your own hate.
But shouldn't there be a limit to what those restrictions can be?
That shows right there that it was a sound law.
Lots of bad laws have survived challenges in court. Just look at all the Federal gun control laws we have. Then again, I have a suspicion that you aren't exactly a gun rights zealot....
Also keep in mind that we are talking about a California court.
Roadhouse was one of my favorite movies. The bouncers at the local bars make the Roadhouse bouncers look like a bunch of pantywaist wannabes. The city has been quietly trying to figure out a way to pull the liquor licenses from a few of those establishments. They easily consume 1/3 of the law enforcement labor hours on the streets. The number of battery claims and civil lawsuits alone will drag those places out of business. It just takes time to document the behavior in such an overwhelming fashion that success is ensured.The first part of Roadhouse could be used as a training film for decent clubs. "It's a job, its not personal". A thick skin is actually more important than anything else. The irony is the muscleheads also like the movie for the wrong reasons.
It's amazing how many bar owners go into the business without a clue, seeing themselves more as Head Patron than businessmen and their staff as the enforcers of their whims. Such places inevitably are headaches and don't stay in business very long. That's what it sounds like is going on there.
-Eric
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