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GOP Seeks to End Term Limits on House Speaker [Hastert Popularity]
LA Times ^ | January 5, 2002 | Nick Anderson

Posted on 01/05/2003 1:06:31 PM PST by ewing

Republicans imposed the rule in 1995 but now want to retain the popular Dennis Hastert.

The move may signal a fading of anti-incumbant fervor.

Eight years after taking power, House Republicans are moving to jettison a rule they had established on the first day of their reign: a four year limit on the term of House Speaker.

The proposal, expected to be approved next week, would enable Speaker Dennis J. Hastert (R-Ill.) to serve beyond the January 2007 term limit that binds him.

The impending change reflects the overwhelming popularity of Hastert, the low-key successor to the fiery Newt Gingrich of Georgia, among the rank and file.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: hastert; repeal; speaker; termlimits; wrestlingcoach
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To: William Creel
"Hastert is a great Speaker of the House. He has the ability to get congressmen to vote for bills they normally wouldn't."


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"Help is on the way"

21 posted on 01/05/2003 3:07:46 PM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: sinkspur
I think Hastert has done a great job.

But I like the chair and leadership term limits.
I think they keep the caucus responsive and 'fresh'.

22 posted on 01/05/2003 3:14:49 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: You Know Not The Hour
Which are you?

Neither. But I like the guy.

24 posted on 01/05/2003 3:47:21 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: Uncle Bill
Personally, I always wanted Tom Delay to be the speaker of the house. I think this whole thing is being done just to make sure Delay never gets the speakers job.
25 posted on 01/05/2003 4:28:36 PM PST by Sonny M
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To: sinkspur
The clout Illinois Republicans gets from having the speaker from our home state is greatly overrated.

Hastert spent previous little time helping the 2002 statewide ticket (fundrasing, ralles, etc.), which went down the tubes in November. Although his voting record is very conservative, he also has a tendacy to back RINOs for positions of power here (Hastert was the lone major ILGOP official to promote pro-abortion Jim "pro-lifers are like the tailban" Oberweis in the GOP Senate primary...which thankfully went nowhere) And ironically, he also has a tendancy to butt in in places where his opinion does NOT matter-- as an example, Denny insisted that Senator Fitzgerald had to "consult" him so he could "approve" all of the Senator's federal judicial nominees that would forwarded to Bush. Past speakers of the house have never insisted the Senators from their home states give them that power. Fitz rightfully ignored him.

Nationwide, he's done a good job as speaker, but the GOP should not pull a Wellstone and back track on term limits. Power corrupts, absolute power...

26 posted on 01/05/2003 6:41:57 PM PST by BillyBoy
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To: Sonny M
Personally, I always wanted Tom Delay to be the speaker of the house. I think this whole thing is being done just to make sure Delay never gets the speakers job.

If DeLay wanted the Speaker's job, he would get it.

He knows he's a lightning rod, and chooses to play second fiddle.

But,there's no doubt he's running the show in the House.

He doesn't want, nor need, to be the face of the Republican party. DeLay saw what the media did to Newt.

27 posted on 01/05/2003 6:45:27 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: BillyBoy
I think writing term limits into the House Rules served their purpose in getting rid of the Democratic majority in the House. As long as Dennis Hastert is doing a good job, he should get to be Speaker. If his Illinois constituents decide he's been around too long they can still vote him out of office. Now that's true term limits at work.
28 posted on 01/05/2003 6:46:53 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: sinkspur
Tom DeLay will be Speaker one day. As long as Hastert preserves the GOP House majority, there's no good reason to show him the door. Newt Gingrich was dumped when the party started losing seats because he miscalculated the effect of his popularity with the party. As long as you're a winner the rule of life is keep a coach that wins. If he starts going on a losing streak, get rid of him. I'm all for letting Hastert stay so long as he produces results for our party.
29 posted on 01/05/2003 6:50:10 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
They should have made JC Watts speaker. Bet he'd do as good a job as Hastert. I'm all for change at the top, it's healthy.
30 posted on 01/05/2003 6:54:22 PM PST by VRWC For Truth
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To: Grut; Scholastic; belmont_mark; DoughtyOne
Hm... term-limiting leadership positions was the 'pubbies original work-around for not term-limiting members of Congress as per the Contract With America. Apparently the CWA is another one of those famous government deals that're binding only so long as they're convenient.

This is outrageous! Hastert is a moderate who needs to move aside for the more conservative House Majority Leader Tom DeLay. We need a more principled Speaker of the House who will stand for conservative Republican principles and not cave to the RATS. This sounds more like the rank in file in the HRC are just happy not to have Newtie as a weapon to be wielded by the RATS to defeat them in the elections.
31 posted on 01/05/2003 6:54:56 PM PST by rightwing2
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To: rightwing2
This sounds more like the rank in file in the HRC are just happy not to have Newtie as a weapon to be wielded by the RATS to defeat them in the elections.

I see nothing wrong with that. If Daschle had passed the bills Hastert's House sent up to the Senate, we'd be in great shape!

Hastert is elected speaker by his fellow Republicans. DeLay is smart enough not to make himself the lighting rod.

32 posted on 01/05/2003 7:05:57 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: ewing
This is a silly distraction for the GOP to be doing now. Hastert won't be term-limited until 2007 (assuming the GOP keeps House control). Hastert is a good man but no Speaker is irreplacable. If the issue is Tom DeLay then DeLay needs to improve his image. How hard can that be?
33 posted on 01/05/2003 7:48:35 PM PST by tellw
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To: Rodney King
Hush Up!!!!!! You'll get banned talking like that----dammit, don't you know republicans can do no wrong around here?
34 posted on 01/05/2003 8:02:09 PM PST by Founding Father
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To: Free the USA
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35 posted on 01/05/2003 8:06:45 PM PST by KQQL
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To: Torie; deport; sampai; ambrose
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36 posted on 01/05/2003 8:07:39 PM PST by KQQL
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To: Grut; Rodney King; Cicero; freeper12; You Know Not The Hour
Before you all decide to storm the Capitol and hang the Speaker out to dry, you might want to read the entire LA Times article. Especially this paragraph:

Other prominent House Republicans appear to be backing Blunt's proposal. One GOP leadership aide predicted it would pass overwhelmingly. Hastert has said nothing about it.

Speaker Hastert neither requested this nor instigated it. The GOP rank and file respect him and the work he's done. They also know that there's no one who could replace him. No one with the votes, and no one with the power the man has.

If Hastert steps aside (as you all hope he will), there will be a huge uproar with the RINOs and right-wing-nuts jockeying for position. Some congressmen, like Blunt, have the foresight to avoid this.

If you want to see a real bloodletting in '06, that's your business. But understand -- the Republicans are just barely holding themselves together and fending off the democrats. Get Jennifer Dunn and Ron Paul tearing into each other, and you can kiss the conservative agenda goodbye.

37 posted on 01/08/2003 4:04:54 PM PST by reformed_democrat
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To: rightwing2
This sounds more like the rank in file in the HRC are just happy not to have Newtie as a weapon to be wielded by the RATS to defeat them in the elections.

Let's see . . . the dems have

Let's give them Tom DeLay to use against us, too.

We'll show those RATs, by golly! We're not afraid they'll beat us at the polls! We'll beat 'em to it! We'll beat ourselves!

38 posted on 01/08/2003 4:17:29 PM PST by reformed_democrat
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To: reformed_democrat
If your position is that term limits should be ignored in this one instance because there is a good reason to keep the guy on, then we might as well scrap term limits altogether, because to the people in power there is always a good reason to keep the guy on.
39 posted on 01/08/2003 4:35:41 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King
If your position is that term limits should be ignored in this one instance because there is a good reason to keep the guy on, then we might as well scrap term limits altogether, because to the people in power there is always a good reason to keep the guy on.

No, I don't think term limits should be ignored. I think they should be scrapped altogether. They make about as much sense as CFR.

40 posted on 01/08/2003 11:46:36 PM PST by reformed_democrat
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