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Greece faces shame of role in Serb massacre
Guardian Unlimited ^ | 1/5/2003 | Helena Smith in Athens

Posted on 01/04/2003 9:38:15 PM PST by a_Turk

War crimes tribunal will hear secrets of support for Milosevic's ethnic cleansing.

It is what Hellenes have long feared: the shattering of a conspiracy of silence that has surrounded the role of Greek volunteers who proudly flew their flag at Srebrenica, after participating in Europe's worst massacre since the Second World War, when 7,000 men, women and children died.

Next week, as Greece settles into the presidency of the European Union, Milan Milutinovic, Serbia's recently retired president, will be brought before the war crimes tribunal at The Hague. Greek involvement in the atrocity, as well as other secrets Athens would prefer buried, could be revealed when the 60-year-old testifies.

No one, it is said, played such a pivotal role in the alliance between Athens and Belgrade during the Nineties Balkan conflicts. As Yugoslavia's ambassador to Greece, Milutinovic was Slobodan Milosevic's most trusted lieutenant. His links with Greece's political, religious and business elites were allegedly crucial to Serbia's secret economic infrastructure. They allowed the country to evade United Nations sanctions and, according to the International Criminal Tribunal, contributed considerably towards Milosevic's war machine.

When the diplomat was promoted to Foreign Minister in 1994, he retained his Athens post for several months when, EU diplomats say, he stashed away funds to buy villas and other prime properties in Athens and Crete at the behest of his boss.

With Greece's admiring public, pro-Serbian church, tolerant media and governments that supported Milosevic, Athens was seen as a bolt-hole by the now disgraced president. As Bosnian Serb ethnic cleansers torched villages, it was here Milosevic would escape to enjoy the hospitality of Greek politicians. Marko Milosevic, his lascivious smuggler son, declared Greece 'my first home'.

'This is our best-kept secret, the subject no politician of any persuasion has ever wanted to broach,' said Takis Michas, author of Unholy Alliance: Greece and Milosevic's Serbia. 'In an era where everyone is saying sorry, in Greece at least no one has shown remorse for the crimes in Bosnia when undoubtedly a significant proportion of the political establishment bear some responsibility.'

The US-published book, yet to be printed in Greek, records in shocking detail the relationship between the two Orthodox nations, including the leaking of Nato military intelligence under socialist leader Andreas Papandreou.

The Greeks know their past may be catching up with them. After last month's long statement of contrition before the Hague tribunal by the former Bosnian Serb leader, Biljana Plavsic, many believe it is only a matter of time before others open up too.

A Dutch documentary investigating Greek complicity in the Serb wars was aired on local television in which a director of the semi-official Athens News Agency, Nikolas Voulelis, admitted to widespread censorship. During the wars the Greek media was fanatically pro-Serb, portraying Yugoslav Muslims as 'infidel Turks' bent on destroying their Orthodox brethren. 'Editorial interference was a given,' he said.

But it was not only hospitality or money that the Greeks offered. Spiritual succour was provided by the Greek Orthodox church which sent priests to the front line (several clerics received bravery medals from Plavsic).

In a step repeated in no other country, Archbishop Serafeim invited the Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic to visit Athens in 1993. At a mass rally attended by prominent politicians, the indicted war criminal proclaimed: 'We have only God and the Greeks on our side.'

Last year, in a 7,000-page report that the Dutch authorities commissioned into the 1995 Srebrenica massacre, Greece was revealed to have sent shipments of light arms and ammunition to the Bosnian Serb army between 1994 and 1995. The report describes how Greek volunteers were implored, in intercepted army telephone conversations, to raise the Greek flag after the town fell. In one, General Ratko Mladic asked that they record the scene on video for propaganda purposes.

Around 100 soldiers are believed to have joined the Greek Volunteer Guard, formed at Mladic's request. The unit, which fought alongside Russians and Ukrainians, was led by Serb officers and had its own insignia - the double-headed eagle of Byzantium. At least four of its members were awarded the White Eagle medal of honour by Karadzic.

Although their 'heroic' exploits were widely reported in the Greek press, the volunteers have gone to ground since the creation of the war crimes tribunal. No government or party has ever sought an inquiry into their activities.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: balkans; bosnia; campaignfinance; greece; napalminthemorning; serbia; wot
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To: Destro; ABrit
The Republic of Turkey, the 16th state to be created by us Turks, was conceived by a revolt of the Turkish public against the Sultan for having signed the Sevres treaty, which gave the country to the British, French, Italians, Greeks, and Armenians, demobilizing and disarming the Turkish armies and effectively sealing the fate of the 15th Turkish state: The Ottoman Empire.

I like the article though.. And your connecting it with Mustafa Kemal is hillarious, Dastro Dastardo. Your propostorous notion of righteousness in international politics is one warped with hippocracy, however: Pathetic, but understandable considering your state of mind.

Merry Christmas.
21 posted on 01/05/2003 9:10:59 AM PST by a_Turk
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To: John H K
Shouldn't you be out collecting money for some al Qaida front?
22 posted on 01/05/2003 10:24:33 AM PST by FormerLib
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To: a_Turk
a_turk,

if this post was meant as a troll, congratulations.
if not, please enlighten us as to the reason(s) for posting it.

disappointed,

anka
23 posted on 01/05/2003 10:36:26 AM PST by anka
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To: a_Turk
The Greeks are very Byzantine in nature. For such a small nation they play a big role. Good thing too.
24 posted on 01/05/2003 12:02:56 PM PST by Destro
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To: ABrit
I hope you like the Bosnian jihad videos. I hope you have a strong stomach.
25 posted on 01/05/2003 12:04:10 PM PST by Destro
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To: anka
>>please enlighten us as to the reason(s) for posting it.

There are hundreds of Greek propaganda sites demonizing Turks. I could be posting this sort of data from western news sources until eternity and not catch up.

Why not ask them if their stuff is a troll?
26 posted on 01/05/2003 12:29:44 PM PST by a_Turk
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To: a_Turk
>>There are hundreds of Greek propaganda sites demonizing Turks.

Freerepublic not being one of those.

>>Why not ask them if their stuff is a troll?

Because I would expect to find propaganda at a Greek propaganda site... not on FR, thus the 'troll' question.

So, am I safe to assume that your reason for posting it is to 'even the score' so to speak?

I've enjoyed your insight into various posts relating to Greek/Turkish issues and your ability to remain level headed at some of my 'fellow' Greeks' insistence on being bigots when confronted by the 'evil Turks'...

We could spend an eternity going over the atrocities performed against Greeks by Turks and vice/versa.

Sorry, if I'm disappointed that you would post an article that I see as an attack against Greece/Greeks. I though you were better than that...

anka
27 posted on 01/05/2003 12:48:09 PM PST by anka
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To: ABrit; a_Turk; Fusion
Tell me, why do you think it is that all the Greek Orthodox nations seem to have a communistic leaning, including self censorship, and self delusion?

Don't forget those nasty Armenians who slaughtered so many noble Turks. Greeks, Serbs, Armenians always commit genocide.

Fusion, do not overlook it - Turkish/Albanian forces of freedom on the move. Europe trembles again.

28 posted on 01/05/2003 1:19:37 PM PST by A. Pole
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To: anka
>>I though you were better than that...

Well.. Whatever.

Destro constantly does this. All I did was post an article from a British paper. You don't see me talking down a religion nor a nation. This article is not anti-Greek, nor is it anti-Orthodox.

>>I've enjoyed your insight into various posts relating to Greek/Turkish issues and your ability to remain level headed at some of my 'fellow' Greeks' insistence on being bigots when confronted by the 'evil Turks'...

By the way, I think this is the first time you have messaged me. Why did you not speak up before when I was under fire? Why didn't you ever tell your 'fellow' Greeks to stuff it?

Merry Christmas.
29 posted on 01/05/2003 1:50:11 PM PST by a_Turk
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To: A. Pole
See my #19.
30 posted on 01/05/2003 2:06:04 PM PST by Destro
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To: a_Turk; *balkans
What do I do all the time? FreeRepublic by the way was created t o take apart the "biased" news coverage that many Conservatives say occurs in the news. It exists to take apart such "news" you just posted and show that it is inaccurate and propaganda. In fact the Guardian is as left wing as you can get, more so than most American news sources.

That the editorial board and the "Third Way leftists" and their "Neo-Con" allies have a stake in the New World Order intervention in Bosnia represented is a given. The use of NATO power on behalf of the Muslims in the Balkans is something old fashioned Conservatives found not only disgusting but a violation of long standing principals. In fact, Kardassi the Republican majority Congress DENIED Clinton military authorization for the Kosovo air war being just one example.

The fact that you support NATO intervention in the Balkans (if indeed that is your position) puts you in a minority on this forum. This has nothing to do with being anti-Turk in any way. Turkey is a valuable ally for the West and has been for 50+ years. That does not mean I excuse Turkey because she is an ally. If my valuable business partner was beating on his wife at home for example I would not ignore it nor would I ignore an allies failings and the reverse applies to Turkey. Turkey has every right and responsibility not to be brow beaten into policies it does not like and to tell America when she is acting improperly. Unless the US is an empire now truly and we impose our will on our allies rather than convince them.

I oppose what NATO did in the Balkans for many reason, traditional non intervention in foreign conflicts not affecting the national security of the USA, the belief in sovereignty that applies to the USA and other nations equally if they do not violate the first principle I mentioned, and finally regardless of the fact all the above were violated supporting independence movements based on Islamic identity has proven a fundamental threat to the security of Americans and of Christians and Jews and non Muslims in general.

My posts I believe indicate just such a thing.

PS: What were US Army patch wearing Muslim headhunters doing in the UN's so called safe haven? Why was it up to just Greeks, Russians and Serbs to fight al-Qaeda allied/supplied and trained Muslims in the Balkans and not NATO before 9/11? That is where the shame, and I think criminal behavior exists, in the collusion with forces like al-Qaeda in the Balkans by NATO statesmen during the Clinton years.

PPS: Safe haven's unlike demilitarized areas like the concept of an open city are not a principal of international war or the Geneva conventions so the Serbs violated no laws in attacking the enclave from which armed Muslims were using to launch attacks. In fact they were justified in doing so on military grounds.

31 posted on 01/05/2003 2:30:28 PM PST by Destro
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To: a_Turk; *balkans
Typo correction: PPS: Safe haven's unlike demilitarized areas like the concept of an open city are not a principal of international war law or the Geneva conventions so the Serbs violated no laws in attacking the enclave from which armed Muslims were using to launch attacks. In fact they were justified in doing so on military grounds.

PPPS: What shame does Turkey feel in the support it gave the Chechens? Chechen fighters are a bigger threat to my existance and to yours than Serbs trying not to live under al-Qaeda sympathizing Muslims.

32 posted on 01/05/2003 2:52:32 PM PST by Destro
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To: Destro
Greeks feel no shame in killing Muslims. They have been doing it since the spawn of Mohammed left the serpent's lair.

No shame - that is right! They have killed Muslim Turks to liberate themselves from the slavery of Muslims. In fact, the West has a lot to learn from the brutality Greeks and other Orthodox (including the brother Serbs) have endured. Greece - as much as I disagree with its leftist leanings as of late - wisely stayed out of Clintoon's War against the Serbs.

Back to the Muslim Turks: Muslims have no business in Europe period! Turks should stay where they are or better yet go back to the Mongolian plains from whence they emerged. Turkey like the Soviet Union is an artificial state built on the blood and bones of the millions of Christians martyred by Muslims.

33 posted on 01/05/2003 4:13:15 PM PST by eleni121
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To: a_Turk
>>Destro constantly does this.

The only advice I can give here, hard as it may be, is to ignore his 'trolls'.

>>By the way, I think this is the first time you have messaged me. Why did you not speak up before when I was under fire? Why didn't you ever tell your 'fellow' Greeks to stuff it?

I've messaged ya before (i think we talked about baklava or some other quasi, Greek/Turkish food)

As far as telling my 'fellow' Greeks to stuff it...
I'd rather ask my papou for a 'Turkish Coffee' ;)

34 posted on 01/05/2003 4:30:53 PM PST by anka
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To: a_Turk
I say give the Greeks a Medal for their efforts.

And to any Islam-o-fascists a 7.62MM.

35 posted on 01/05/2003 4:33:45 PM PST by gitmogrunt
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To: anka
>>I'd rather ask my papou for a 'Turkish Coffee'

Does papou mean dad?
36 posted on 01/05/2003 5:58:19 PM PST by a_Turk
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To: anka
I am hard to ignore, lass.
37 posted on 01/05/2003 7:38:05 PM PST by Destro
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To: Destro
Show some respect Dastro!
39 posted on 01/05/2003 8:30:41 PM PST by a_Turk
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To: a_Turk; ABrit
GWB also agrees with the Greeks and Serbs that Clinton supported the wrong side.

Under GWB's leadership virtually the entire KLA officer has been rounded up and chucked in prison.

Seems GWB thinks Milosevic was right

40 posted on 01/05/2003 8:56:37 PM PST by vooch
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