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To: JohnHuang2

He's right about this.

OTOH, Falwell (and some other people who I won't mention) need to realize that Islam is protected by our constitution here. It's not fair to paint every Muslim with this broad brush, especially domestically.

If it were some Tim McVeigh or Jim Jones type nut job killing people in the "name of Christ" I know I certainly don't deserve to have my religion slandered and categorically blamed for their actions.

We punish actions here, not religions.. so there's no need to stir up a bunch of hate for Islam in general.

3 posted on 01/04/2003 1:53:27 AM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: Jhoffa_
We punish actions here, not religions.. so there's no need to stir up a bunch of hate for Islam in general.

No one is stirring up hate, except the muslims themselves.

There is a price to be paid for inactions, too. You don't find the world's muslims condemning these murders and religious slaughters--and there are millions being slaughtered. I don't see "mainstream" muslims saying or doing anything to stop it.

Nor do I see or hear any "mainstream" muslims urging tolerance for Christians or Jews.

That's the reality, and many of us refuse to sugarcoat it any longer. If you want to call that hate, then that's your problem.

6 posted on 01/04/2003 5:30:11 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: Jhoffa_
"OTOH, Falwell (and some other people who I won't mention) need to realize that Islam is protected by our constitution here. It's not fair to paint every Muslim with this broad brush, especially domestically."

That is only because Islam is treated here as religion. It is not. It is a cult.
Read the Koran and the Haddiths. Read the writings of ex-Muslims. A religious faith whose personally wielded a sword, killed non-believers, enslaved children, authorized the execution of non-beleivers, called for death for his followers who converted to anoterh faith is a CULT, not a religion. Some individual Muslims may not approve of the Sharia Law, but they are few and far between and their silence is deafening.

The U.S. and the west in general should and must recognize Islam for the threat it is, a theocratic hate system which tolerate no one, chattelizes women, and locks society into a brutal past.

Islam should not be allowed or tolerated here and a;; Muslims should be deported.
16 posted on 01/04/2003 11:04:29 AM PST by ZULU
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To: Jhoffa_
so there's no need to stir up a bunch of hate for Islam in general....

Oh gee, yeah we just LOVE islam here.

Radical islamists are directly responsible for a continuing culture of death and terrorism around the world. But I guess it's politically incorrect to point that out?

22 posted on 01/04/2003 11:18:44 AM PST by Bullish
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To: Jhoffa_
We do not protect cults and terrorists like we do religions. THAT is the difference.
25 posted on 01/04/2003 11:23:12 AM PST by Republic of Texas
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To: Jhoffa_
We punish actions here, not religions.. so there's no need to stir up a bunch of hate for Islam in general.

Apparently, you are blissfully oblivious to all matters of proportionality and balance in the manner in which matters of similar color and weight are handled in strikingly different degrees and angles by the mainstream media.

Perhaps you didn't notice that, after the April 19, 1995, bombing of the McMurrah Federal Building in OKC, the Clinton Administration (echoed by the mainstream media) had a field day implicating militias, talk radio, and the "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" with responsibility for the bombing.

Then, when a couple yahoos brutalized and killed a sodomite in Wyoming, the media made us all believe that the sky was falling -- and that Fundamentalist Christians were pretty much to blame.

Now, when, we (or, most of us do, as, apparently you are, again, oblivious to these things) read almost DAILY of brutal Islamic acts of aggression against Christians and other non-Muslims, it is a big "ho-hum" in the national media.

Where is the outrage? Where are the media "in-depth stories" on the various Muslim terrorist outfits in the world? Why are we instead fed all these stories about how much Muslims are suffering in this country from "anti-Muslim backlash?"

If you are blind to these things, I must assume that you are either: a) Muslim; (b) a Muslim sympathizer (read: Muslim at heart); (c) a virulent opponent of Christianity; or (d) just plain not too bright.

37 posted on 01/04/2003 11:37:09 AM PST by BenR2
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To: Jhoffa_
We punish actions here, not religions.. so there's no need to stir up a bunch of hate for Islam in general.

So if Infidels cannot point out the flaws of Islam, then can blacks and others not point out the flaws of Christian Identity (the religion of the KKK)?
74 posted on 01/04/2003 1:37:48 PM PST by Michael2001
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To: Jhoffa_
"If it were some Tim McVeigh or Jim Jones type nut job killing people in the "name of Christ" I know I certainly don't deserve to have my religion slandered and categorically blamed for their actions."

There are literally millions of people on planet Earth being murdered in the name of "Allah" -- thousands a day -- and you dare to serve up this retarded analogy??

Move to the back of the reality class -- waaay to the back, Gandhi. Then call in the duty nurse for a dose of r-e-a-l-i-t-y.

83 posted on 01/04/2003 6:59:50 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Jhoffa_
If it were some Tim McVeigh or Jim Jones type nut job killing people in the "name of Christ"...

Give it a rest!

This second grade "comparison" is getting tedious.
First of all everybody knows that Tim McVeigh never did anything that anyone knows of "in the name of Christ".
Dozens of muslims commit murder, mayhem and other atrocities daily in the name of "allah". Now. This month. This week. Tomorrow. The day after.

Your pathetic "if" at the beginning of that sentence makes reading the rest of the red herring a waste of time.

Can't the sand-maggots come up with more rational and adult arguments?

100 posted on 01/04/2003 11:50:32 PM PST by Publius6961
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