Posted on 01/02/2003 10:15:51 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed
The language of the Second Amendment seems straightforward: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. Yet the debate rages on: Does each American citizen have the right to own firearms or not?
Last year, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit said yes. Citing historical evidence that clearly shows the Second Amendment was intended as a personal right, the Court said the Constitution guarantees to each individual American the right to keep and bear arms. The Justice Department soon adopted this interpretation.
Wrong, the Ninth Circuit recently responded. In an opinion penned by one of the same judges who declared the phrase under God in the Pledge of Allegiance unconstitutional, the Court recounted different historical evidence to conclude that the Second Amendment protects only the right of the people to maintain an effective militia. In other words, the amendment doesnt protect individual rights at all.
With the decision of the Ninth Circuit, the issue is ripe for resolution by the Supreme Court. Indeed, some observers say that the Ninth Circuits ruling is something of a challenge to the Court, deliberately setting up a conflict between it and the Fifth Circuit and daring the federal government to look the other way. Its been more than 60 years since the Supreme Court last considered the question, so it may not be able to avoid resolving it much longer.
The issue isnt so much the amount of regulation. Hardly anyone, including the vast majority of those who say the Second Amendment protects an individual right, suggests that the amendment is an absolute prohibition on all government regulation of the use and ownership of firearms. Yes, they say, the amendment doesnt prohibit the government from making it illegal for the average citizen to own, say, a grenade launcher or an anti‑tank missile. And yes, those who own automatic weapons should register them.
No, the issue isnt reasonable regulation. Everyone agrees that within some reasonable bounds, the government can and should regulate who owns which types of weapons.
What then lies behind the conflict? A question as old as civilization itself: Exactly how much power does the government have to regulate individual conduct? Our Founders answer to the question was plain: The Constitution comes down squarely on the side of limited government and individual liberty. Our entire Constitution resonates with the idea that that government is best which governs least -- and the Second Amendment is no exception.
This view was widely held at the time the Constitution was framed. One commentary on the Bill of Rights, published anonymously in the Pennsylvania Gazette in 1788, asked: Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? ... Congress has no power to disarm the militia. Their swords are the birthright of an American. [T]he unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.
Some of the Founders themselves made it clear that the Fifth Circuits position isnt exactly a radical one. Laws that forbid the carrying of arms serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man, said Thomas Jefferson in his Commonplace Book. Alexander Hamilton wrote in The Federalist Papers that no federal army could threaten our liberties as long as a large body of citizens, proficient in the use of arms, stands ready to defend them.
A due regard for this history demonstrates the error of the Ninth Circuits decision. Though the question may have little practical consequences, it lies at the core of the American self-conception and makes all the difference in the world. For at the center of the American heritage lies a distrust of governmental power. Just how that heritage plays out in this case may soon be decided by the Supreme Court. It should remember where we came from.
Paul Rosenzweig is a senior legal research fellow in the Center for Legal and Judicial Studies at The Heritage Foundation and an adjunct professor of law at George Mason University. Distributed nationally on the Knight-Ridder Tribune wire
YES IT DOES. "shall not be infringed" is pretty clear cut
Yes, they say, the amendment doesnt prohibit the government from making it illegal for the average citizen to own, say, a grenade launcher or an anti-tank missile.
Those weapons are deployed at the platoon level in an infantry unit. Yes, they are exactly what the Founders of our country wanted in the hands of the militia.
And yes, those who own automatic weapons should register them.
STRIKE 3 ..... Miller is totally unconstitutional.
I have a problem with those statements. I can get a grenade-launching, Yugoslavian SKS for $160 here in town. I don't see the point of registering any firearms, including automatic weapons.
Repeal the ban on automatic weapon importation/manufacture.
I guess I can understand those who got learnt in goberment skools not understanding this sentence structure but where on earth does the first part of the sentence in anyway modify the last part?
Frequently a very smart Freeper (sorry I don't recall who dat person be) :-),posts a test sentence (an I am doing this from a limited memory) like the following.
An educated electorate, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and read books shall not be infringed" or words to that effect.
In the test sentence to follow the gun grabbers logic, I guess that only educated people should be allowed books.
Well, the NRA gave Bob Dole the okay for the Brady Bill in exchange for hunter harrassement legislation. (See GOA Vol 13, No. 1) That sounds like gun control to me!
Well..... theres a pretty strong argument that the NRA is the only reason we still have any 2nd Amendment left to quote.
Without them, and without discounting the efforts of the VERY FEW hardcore progun citizens in this country, we would likely be in the same fix as our Canuck, Aussie and UK brethren.
What NRA bashers tend to forget is that ours is a government of consensus and compromise, and no amount of martyrdom or self righteousness about natural rights is going to change that.
Idealism is nice in a vacuum, but short of taking up arms against the government the NRA is all we've got -soccer moms outnumber machine gun owners in this country by about 4 million to one.
Think anybody in congress is scared of GOA? Think again.
But until WE change the attitudes of about 225 Million fellow Americans, the GOA position will remain fringe and outflanked.
--Boris
and the following links:
A Practicing Attorney's Look at the Second Amendment
ASSESSING THE CASE FOR FIREARMS PROHIBITION
Hoplophobia - The Root of All Evil
The Commonplace Second Amendment (destroys "militia right" interpretation)
So the "Arms Control and Disarmament" agency should quit thinking about nuclear weapons and focus on handguns?
--Boris
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