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Texan arrested in Turlock (CA) in sting for Web pedophiles
Modesto Bee ^
| 2/2/03
| Pat Giblen
Posted on 01/02/2003 12:34:22 PM PST by hoosierskypilot
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Wonder how many girls this piece of trash has destroyed?
To: hoosierskypilot
Turlock - a Modesto suburb. The hits just keep on coming.
To: hoosierskypilot
No doubt. This guy is 65 years old. I seriously doubt that he suddenly decided to do this at the age of 64 1/2. I hope the evidence on his computer puts him in federal prison with a 400 lb cellmate named Bubba who's in the market for a new prison wife.
To: hoosierskypilot
McClain later e-mailed and told Hedrick he had framed and hung the underwear on his wall.Keep this Texan. We don't want him back.
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posted on
01/02/2003 12:44:26 PM PST
by
Dog Gone
To: hoosierskypilot
I am still a little uneasy with federal officals lying about who they are.
To: Phantom Lord
Not me. I say good work.
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posted on
01/02/2003 12:48:37 PM PST
by
SoDak
To: Phantom Lord
Havent these people realized that all 14 or 13 year old girls on the internet are FBI agents.
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posted on
01/02/2003 12:52:04 PM PST
by
Husker24
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
No question the old pervert needs to be w/ Bubba. How many resources did the police use to bust this guy? What could they have spent their resources on that would have benefited
you and I? Could any of this be construed as entrapment?
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posted on
01/02/2003 12:52:47 PM PST
by
realistic
To: hoosierskypilot
"Most people think of pedophiles as these creepy guys who you can identify," Christianson said. "But the truth is over the years we've arrested professional football players, doctors, teachers and even journalists."What! Even journalists?!? I simply can't believe it.
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posted on
01/02/2003 12:53:26 PM PST
by
wideawake
To: Phantom Lord
Just dont solicit children for sex. No problem.
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posted on
01/02/2003 12:53:39 PM PST
by
sinclair
To: Phantom Lord
I'm uneasy about it, too.
But I can live with it depending on the specifics of how the contacts are handled. I can see it very easily turning from a sting into active entrapment.
One good point is that presumably all contacts are precisely documented.
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posted on
01/02/2003 12:54:33 PM PST
by
Restorer
To: realistic
What could they have spent their resources on that would have benefited you and I? Well, from my perspective this does benefit "I." I don't need perverts like this guy stalking around after my daughter. When you're getting rid of predators you hunt them down -- if you wait until they attack, it's too late.
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posted on
01/02/2003 12:56:46 PM PST
by
r9etb
To: Restorer
One good point is that presumably all contacts are precisely documented. As long as the pedophile is the one who does the initial contact and seeks out a teen girl to talk too, then fine. But I would not be surprised if there are FBI agents sitting in chat rooms typing "13 year old girl looking for older man to chat with" to see who bites their hook.
To: hoosierskypilot
The pedos are such idiots. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.
To: Phantom Lord
I am still a little uneasy with federal officals lying about who they are. Well, have a Coke and a smile and you'll feel better.
To: sinclair
Just dont solicit children for sex. No problem. That is about as intelligent as those who say "Well, if your not doing anything wrong, then you would have nothing to worry about" when discussing civil rights violations and rampant ignoring of the 4th amendment by the Imperial Federal Government.
Hey, if your not harboring any illegal substances or items then surely you wouldnt mind recinding the 4th amendment. Nor the 5th should you be asked to testify. Hey, if you didnt do anything wrong, no problem.
To: Phantom Lord
But I would not be surprised if there are FBI agents sitting in chat rooms typing I have no problem with that. Any man that would want to hook up with a young person like that is a criminal.
But they don't need to do that. These pervs seeks out young girls. You don't have to pursue them. Go to a boy band chat room and count the people in it. Probably 1/4 are trolling men.
To: AppyPappy
I guess there is a fundemental difference between us. I prefer a government that doesnt lie to entrap its citizens. Where as you find that perfectly acceptable.
Two of the biggest smuggling items currently into America from Canada and Mexico are the old 3 gallon toliets and the old CFC containing stuff used in refrigirators and air conditioning. Say you called in a plubmer or AC specialist to fix a problem at your home. Turns out the problem is very expensive to fix, but for half the price he can install one of the above items and your problem is fixed. You take the deal. Next he handcuffs you and your off to jail for attempting to purchase an illegal item.
Hey, no problem. You deserved it. And never mind that the federal agent lured you into the crime.
I know it is vastly different than the topic at hand, but the basis, a lying government agent with the sole purpose of entraping someone is the same.
To: Phantom Lord
I guess the part that bugs me is that there are no children actually involved. The "crime" takes place exclusively in the mind of the pervert. He solicited no child, but rather a cop posing as a child.
If a young-looking adult woman claiming to be 15 had sex with an older man, would he be committing statutory rape? He certainly would be intending to, but would it, or should it, qualify as a crime?
What about a young-looking detective who purchases liquor without being carded? The clerk probably believed he was selling liquor to a minor, but he wasn't.
There is a disquieting element of "thought crime" in these situations.
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posted on
01/02/2003 1:08:19 PM PST
by
Restorer
To: Dog Gone
Keep this Texan. We don't want him back.I'll second that.
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