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To: hsmomx3
Now, California is cracking down on home schoolers in order to bring them into the system.

About time. If private citizens wish to assume the functions of government, let them meet government standards. If I want to build my own house, I still need to comply with the applicable building codes.

5 posted on 01/02/2003 12:05:13 PM PST by CholeraJoe
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To: CholeraJoe
If private citizens wish to assume the functions of government, let them meet government standards.

You've got it backwards, Joe. It's the government that's taken on the role of parents.

7 posted on 01/02/2003 12:12:50 PM PST by savedbygrace
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To: CholeraJoe
since when is compulsary education a legitimate function of government? maybe provide an example or two.

thanks in advance

8 posted on 01/02/2003 12:16:46 PM PST by bc2
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To: CholeraJoe
If private citizens wish to assume the functions of government

Listen to yourself! How did you come to define the education of our children as a function of government? Perhaps it's in the Constitution? Oh wait a minute, can't seem to find it there.

Well, the government's been doing it for a while, so it must be a government function. Yeah, that's it. If the government starts doing it, it becomes a government function and anyone who would dare to do it on their own, well they must be in need of some serious regulation.

12 posted on 01/02/2003 12:31:19 PM PST by LikeLight
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To: CholeraJoe
Education is not a legitimate function of government.

Compulsory eduction laws were originally concieved by anti-Catholic bigots to try to undermine Catholic parents beliefs. The same tradition is carried on today as state schools try to indoctrinate children into radical environmentalism and other strange beliefs.

21 posted on 01/02/2003 12:42:13 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: CholeraJoe
...If private citizens wish to assume the functions of government, let them meet government standards....

Can you point to me anywhere in the US Constitution that education is deemed a "function" of "government," or that home-schoolers have to be dumbed down to measurements exacted by "govenment standards?" Can you point to any State's Constitution which mandates that the only educational "standards" are those defined solely by the whim of state's teachers' unions?

Point is this: homeschoolers consistently EXCEED government standards. What makes you think government bureaucrats/educrats have qualifications to stand in judgment of them, let alone attempt to try to "control" them?

24 posted on 01/02/2003 12:46:05 PM PST by Agamemnon
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To: CholeraJoe
As a youth, did you ever toss a skunk into your neighbor's henhouse?
26 posted on 01/02/2003 12:47:16 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: CholeraJoe
If private citizens wish to assume the functions of government, let them meet government standards.

But homeschoolers exceed 'government standards'.

29 posted on 01/02/2003 12:50:47 PM PST by asformeandformyhouse
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To: CholeraJoe
Powder..Patch..Ball FIRE!

About time. If private citizens wish to assume the functions of government, let them meet government standards

Government standards my hairy a**!

My 3 youngest children are home schooled and consistently outperform their peers in assessment testing. My oldest (who was home schooled for 7 years) is a senior with a 4.2 gpa and already has 13 hours of college credit with a 3.7 gpa.

Government standards are a smoke screen for government control.

31 posted on 01/02/2003 12:53:45 PM PST by BallandPowder
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To: CholeraJoe
About time. If private citizens wish to assume the functions of government, let them meet government standards. If I want to build my own house, I still need to comply with the applicable building codes.

While our building codes are for the public's and your safety; governmental "education's" purpose is now to employ "educators" and produce mindless sheeple dipped in the "oil of PC" and to allow only coloring inside the lines as approved BY the government. Godless schools (unless you're a moose-limb) and tolerance of the homosexual agenda and their perversions are two such examples od "educators" "preparing" our kids for life. The ecological green weenies, anti-gun nuts, and feminist nazis are also adding their own special charms to the public schools as well. No wonder people need to teach their own kids.

My advice: don't let the government know you have children!

34 posted on 01/02/2003 12:55:53 PM PST by texson66
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To: CholeraJoe
If private citizens wish to assume the functions of government, let them meet government standards.

Hey Joe! If homeschoolers produce the academic cream of the crop, meeting government standards would dumb them down. Homeschoolers already exceed government standards. By forcing HSers to comply with govt sub-standards, they are opening the door to home visits. Now either the homosexual and pro-aborts' penumbran constitutional right to privacy exists or it doesn't. If it exists, HSers have the same right. If it doesn't, time to overturn Roe v. Wade and push the Hsexers back into the closet.

45 posted on 01/02/2003 1:04:08 PM PST by Dataman
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To: CholeraJoe
If private citizens wish to assume the functions of government, let them meet government standards.

"Put down that book. Here is your condom and banana."

54 posted on 01/02/2003 1:15:11 PM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: CholeraJoe
If private citizens wish to assume the functions of government, let them meet government standards.

If that is all you ask of education then you will wind up being (or raising) a moron.

Shalom.

60 posted on 01/02/2003 1:18:50 PM PST by ArGee
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To: CholeraJoe
Not with MY kids you dont. The government standards are MUCH TOO LOW to be acceptable to my two sons. God willing, they will never ever see the inside of a public scrool.

74 posted on 01/02/2003 1:40:11 PM PST by Capt.YankeeMike
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To: CholeraJoe
If private citizens wish to assume the functions of government, let them meet government standards.

Idiot. The one thing the government DOESN'T want is for home-educated kids to exceed their wretched standards. It makes them look bad and builds an educated opposition. According to their own tests, both my kids could pass their high school equivalency exams. One is ten; the other is eight.

All they want us for is to rais their average test scores so that they can qualify for Federal Funds and they don't care what happens to my kids in the process. Leave us alone.

75 posted on 01/02/2003 1:48:02 PM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: CholeraJoe
Break out your copy of the US Constitution, Joe, and show me the part about education being the responsibilty of the Federal Gov't. Can't find it, eh? Well, surely the Founders meant that as part of the original intent, better check the Federalist Papers, too. Surely it must be in there!
77 posted on 01/02/2003 1:59:06 PM PST by Ignatz
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To: CholeraJoe
About time. If private citizens wish to assume the functions of government, let them meet government standards. If I want to build my own house, I still need to comply with the applicable building codes.

Raising and teaching my kids is not the function of our goverment. Do you think the goverment has ownership of the children? That is one of the basic principles on communism.

We by far out perform goverment standards we have every year that we have been tested. This is not about superior teaching we already do that. This is about who actually owns the children and what they are taught, nothing more nothing less.

BTW my children under goverment schools would have been in remedial classes. Under my teaching my senior in high school will graduate this year from highschool and will also graduate from a local community college with an associates degree in Biology, he will enter university as a junior. My junior in highschool could have been accepted at Juliard from the time he was 15 years old. These boys would have been lost in goverment schools and would never have had a chance to excell. But, we both know that is not what this is all about it is about who is in control not what is best for the student.

80 posted on 01/02/2003 2:02:33 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: CholeraJoe
I'm notifying Eli Weisel that he missed you in the search.:^)

Actually, I know you're being teasingly provocative; but you know all the arguments used against the exercise of fundamental individual rights, and therefore provide for a wall against which counter-argument may be slung: makes for an interesting thread.

If, however, you are serious in your assertions--which I seriously doubt--a scurvy pox upon you, sir! I recognise your sentiment, have defeated it once already; and I stand ready to defend liberty against the predations which you--wielding the cudgel of majoritan tyranny--would inflict upon your neighbors! Your notions are fundamentally corrupt, evil, scorn-worthy: an insult to what my father, uncles and granfathers endured in service to this country and its constitution.

I will step around you; lift my feet over you; step upon your face, or contest my life for yours, if ever you, or any like you, seek to rob me of that to which God hisself has appointed to my stewardship and discretion.

But I know you're kidding, so take no umbrage at my rant.

81 posted on 01/02/2003 2:02:53 PM PST by dasboot
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To: CholeraJoe
About time. If private citizens wish to assume the functions of government, let them meet government standards

That is scary. You show me in the Constitution where government is given the sole right to educate children.

83 posted on 01/02/2003 2:15:47 PM PST by montag813
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To: CholeraJoe
About time. If private citizens wish to assume the functions of government, let them meet government standards. If I want to build my own house, I still need to comply with the applicable building codes.

And you post on Free Republic, Why exactly?

Was your screen name at DU.com taken? Democrats.com not accepting any new applicants?

85 posted on 01/02/2003 2:19:59 PM PST by DAnconia55
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To: CholeraJoe
I wouldn't send my dog to a public school. He's a good dog.
91 posted on 01/02/2003 2:30:51 PM PST by Jonx6
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