Posted on 12/30/2002 11:02:27 PM PST by JohnHuang2
No issue has a greater influence on determining your social and political views than whether you view human nature as basically good or not.
In 20 years as a radio talk-show host, I have dialogued with thousands of people, of both sexes and from virtually every religious, ethnic and national background. Very early on, I realized that perhaps the major reason for political and other disagreements I had with callers was that they believed people are basically good, and I did not. I believe that we are born with tendencies toward both good and evil. Yes, babies are born innocent, but not good.
Why is this issue so important?
First, if you believe people are born good, you will attribute evil to forces outside the individual. That is why, for example, our secular humanistic culture so often attributes evil to poverty. Washington Sen. Patty Murray, former President Jimmy Carter and millions of other Westerners believe that the cause of Islamic terror is poverty. They really believe that people who strap bombs to their bodies to blow up families in pizzerias in Israel, plant bombs at a nightclub in Bali, slit stewardesses' throats and ram airplanes filled with innocent Americans into office buildings do so because they lack sufficient incomes.
Something in these people cannot accept the fact that many people have evil values and choose evil for reasons having nothing to do with their economic situation. The Carters and Murrays of the West representatives of that huge group of naive Westerners identified by the once proud title "liberal" do not understand that no amount of money will dissuade those who believe that God wants them to rule the world and murder all those they deem infidels.
Second, if you believe people are born good, you will not stress character development when you raise children. You will have schools teach young people how to use condoms, how to avoid first and secondhand tobacco smoke, how to recycle and how to prevent rainforests from disappearing. You will teach them how to struggle against the evils of society its sexism, its racism, its classism and its homophobia. But you will not teach them that the primary struggle they have to wage to make a better world is against their own nature.
I attended Jewish religious schools (yeshivas) until the age of 18, and aside from being taught that moral rules come from God rather than from personal or world opinion, this was the greatest difference between my education and those who attended public and private secular schools. They learned that their greatest struggles were with society, and I learned that the greatest struggle was with me, and my natural inclinations to laziness, insatiable appetites and self-centeredness.
Third, if you believe that people are basically good, God and religion are morally unnecessary, even harmful. Why would basically good people need a God or religion to provide moral standards? Therefore, the crowd that believes in innate human goodness tends to either be secular or to reduce God and religion to social workers, providers of compassion rather than of moral standards and moral judgments.
Fourth, if you believe people are basically good, you, of course, believe that you are good and therefore those who disagree with you must be bad, not merely wrong. You also believe that the more power that you and those you agree with have, the better the society will be. That is why such people are so committed to powerful government and to powerful judges. On the other hand, those of us who believe that people are not basically good do not want power concentrated in any one group, and are therefore profoundly suspicious of big government, big labor, big corporations and even big religious institutions. As Lord Acton said long ago, "Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." Lord Acton did not believe people are basically good.
No great body of wisdom, East or West, ever posited that people were basically good. This naive and dangerous notion originated in modern secular Western thought, probably with Jean Jacques Rousseau, the Frenchman who gave us the notion of pre-modern man as a noble savage.
He was half right. Savage, yes, noble, no.
If the West does not soon reject Rousseau and humanism and begin to recognize evil, judge it and confront it, it will find itself incapable of fighting savages who are not noble.
When you us the word "Capitalism" you have allowed the Marxists to deconstruct our language.
I believe what you meant by it's use is "Free Enterprise" or "Freedom" or "Free Markets" or Liberty.
The word "Capitalism" was created by Karl Marx as a diminution of Liberty of individuals.
Marx defines all people into two classes: workers and owners of Capital or better yet: serfs and royalty.
I would highly recommend the reading of Marxism : Philosophy and Economics by Thomas Sowell.
Barukh haba b'Shem Adonai
Blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord
Y'shua haMashiach
chuck <truth@YeshuaHaMashiach>
Doesn't mean they are evil. Stupid, perhaps.
The Bible deems us 'desperately wicked,' not just 'fallen'--which does not imply, by any stretch, that we can right ourselves.
Care to weigh in, Mom?
I believe you're wrong.
Goodness can only be earned, and the inability simply to recognize, no less name, confront and fight evil is what's already gotten "us into a lot of trouble."
It is only after we gain a certain amount of maturity, enough that is, to be responsible for our actions, that we must be held accountable for our beliefs and actions.
IMO Baptism is meaningless with infants. On the other hand, I don't believe an infant who dies is damned.
Fortunately, I have a "Unitarian" philosophy which makes allowances for those who are "invincibly ignorant". He he.
Classic Arminianism, filtered through a secularist lens.
Sadly, most protestant chruches reinforce this view among their congregants. How many times have we all heard, in church, "The devil votes against you, God votes for you, then you cast the deciding vote."?
And you know we lean toward pelagianism, but geeze, we are perhaps the most conservative branch of Christianity too. We would never, ever, consider that evil was not real, or think that raising children without discipline was ok.
We require our kids to stand attentively for hours at worship and prostrate themselves on a regular basis.
And, ahem, there is perhaps no church which accepts this concept about power with as much dedication as ours.
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