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Be Glad that you don't live in California.(Most OUTSTANDING article!)
Pittsburgh Tribune Review ^
| 29 December 2002
| Peter A. Brown
Posted on 12/30/2002 9:08:08 AM PST by vannrox
Edited on 12/30/2002 11:55:58 AM PST by Admin Moderator.
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To: EggsAckley
For me ... it's the sight and the smell of the ocean.
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posted on
12/30/2002 9:26:46 PM PST
by
CyberAnt
To: CyberAnt
For me, it's 70 degrees in January, while reading about the rest of the country struggling with freezing sleet and brown snow........Hehehe......
To: EggsAckley
What a grand picture. I love plants, landscaping, and pacific weather, and I can't imagine living anywhere but where I live. I am reminded of that everytime I look out of my window in the morning about 300 days of the year. Plus one with the right skills can make a handsome living.
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posted on
12/30/2002 9:32:54 PM PST
by
Torie
To: vannrox
The best line is the last line.
"Be happy you live somewhere else."
To: PhiKapMom
At the hotel we were staying at in San Diego,... Don't know how you guys do it! BTW your grocery prices for things like eggs are out of sight! Not to mention gasoline. I went from paying $1.19 for a gallon when I left OK to paying $1.79 and higher in San Diego! What a shock!
I live in San Diego an all the people who live around us speak English. But then again, I don't live in a hotel. I don't know where you bought gas but down the road from us it's $1.45/gallon. You got caught in the tourist trap! ;o)
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posted on
12/30/2002 9:55:01 PM PST
by
It's me
To: It's me
You can say that again. I paid $1.69 at a Shell station just down I-8 from the hotel. Also paid $1.59 on the North Island NAS which was a shock!
Have you been to the downtown San Diego Mall? We heard a lot of people not speaking English there including at the eating places. Also at the large mall off of I-8 in La Mesa -- Grosspoint Mall I believe. We just had an overwhelming sense that the number of people speaking another language at least in the service industries far outnumbered those speaking English.
We also lived outside San Antonio which has a huge Hispanic population but I had a lot more trouble comprehending out west than I ever did in the San Antonio area. I don't speak Spanish fluently but can comprehend what is being said so that was not a problem. Very few Asians in San Antonio may be the difference.
Having lived in a town outside of San Bernardino, I did not expect what I witnessed on this trip. Tourist trap or not, I didn't feel that for the most part that part of the Country was very friendly compared to the places we stopped in New Mexico, Arizona, and Texas.
While we are at it something else I experience that I found unbelieveable was the way people shop out there leaving the stores in disarray as they toss things around. Having lived all over the Country, I had never seen anything like what I witnessed on an early Sunday morning when I did some Christmas shopping. Talking to one of the employees I found out that people actually leave their kids off at malls, walmart, etc., and expect those kids to entertain themselves while they do other things. BTW I don't pay $2.69 for a dozen eggs either. Try $.99 or lower.
Truthfully I was left with the feeling to get me out of this State. Contrast that to when our family left on a reassignment to an Industry assignment for the Air Force in MA -- I was devastated.
Your State has changed drastically and not for the better. The High School in the town we lived in now has huge fences surrounding it with guards at the gate to let you in and it is a foothills town. Not impressed at all!
To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Lived there for almost six years and thought the same thing especially during the winter. I loved the time I spent in Yucaipa -- short drive to snow and a short drive to Palm Springs.
It was definitely a shock to return this time for more than a couple of days and be able to visit places I used to go to all the time. There is definitely an immigration problem that won't quit. Not to mention prices in CA are skyhigh for property. The house we had built now is on the market for 3 1/2 times what we paid for it. That is obscene!
When I lived there all I could see were positives, but this trip showed me a side of SoCal that I had never experienced including during previous visits.
I live in the heart of flyover country now and everyone makes fun of us, but I wouldn't trade it for living on either coasts. Lived on both coasts and other places in flyover country and the two places that win the friendliest contest are TX and OK with NM a close second.
Will take my winters which are not all that bad and be happy that my kids went to schools in this part of the Country. That is not to say all of SoCal schools are like that but the feeling we got shopping and visiting some other people was that some kids need responsible parents and some discipline in their lives.
We go shopping in Dallas/Fort Worth a lot and have never witnessed the rude, obnoxious behavior that we saw from teenagers out there. Also drive in Dallas traffic but for the most part, drivers are not rude -- ditto San Antonio.
Just my opinion but it seems to be echoed by friends of ours that still live there that are looking to move along with the people we met at the NAS who love the weather but want out of San Diego for a host of reasons including costs and schools.
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To: PhiKapMom
You were in La Mesa and my store (A contemporary ceramic and craft studio) is in the historic downtown La Mesa District. You should tell your daughter to come visit me and bring her kids if she has any! It's a really fun shop!
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posted on
12/31/2002 7:24:44 AM PST
by
Hildy
To: sandyeggo
We took the Harbor Cruise and the one place we loved was the downtown mall. We had been to the San Diego zoo before as well as Sea World and other places on other trips out there. We also went to Alpine. San Diego is a beautiful city -- how can you beat Coronado for a beautiful place?
Think what shocked me so much is that we used to go to San Diego to get away from going into LA traffic and it was down there too. You are right about Camp Pendleton -- saved the day!
Guess I was just disgusted that the State has been overrun with people. My youngest daughter was born in Loma Linda Hospital and I have great memories of the time we spent out there at Norton AFB.
Wish I had known you all lived in that area! Might have had a different impression!
To: Hildy
I will tell her. She just got married which was the reason my youngest daughter and I were out there. They are both in the Navy. She has always loved crafts, painting, etc. so I will tell her about your shop. She does most of her shopping in LaMesa.
Will be out there next year when she is transferred to Maine to join her new husband who will be headed there next summer. Will definitely stop into your shop while I am there.
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To: sandyeggo
Parkway Plaza sounds right! I was stunned to say the least! My daughter just graduated in May from High School and she was shocked.
Horton Mall had some really nice stores and bought some Christmas there.
We were at the Cabrillo Monument years ago when we lived in Yucaipa and used to make trips to San Diego about once a month to see the various places. Always wanted to go out on a tour to the see the whales but never made it.
We did take the Harbor Cruise though. Also was over at North Island to see the carrier Nimitz up close. What a sight!
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To: evolved_rage
" But so have Texas and Arizona, which know how to say no and aren't fiscal wrecks " Unfortunately, Texas is $5 Billion in the red, and we have our own socialist/PC/pro-illegal immigration movement heating up. God Save Us All.
To: PhiKapMom; All
Well, as I said or implied, "to each his/her own". I've visited many places where I would not choose to live, but I find no need to spend time talking about it or making comments about how the inhabitants tolerate it.
Chances are very great that I would find Oklahoma uninhabitable. It's all relative. There are negatives everywhere and you simply exchange some for others.
My whole purpose for posting here was to say that the California bashing is getting old. Why are we a free target? I bet you wouldn't like a turnabout.
You're a friend and I mean no hostility. I just want to say what I think needs to be said. :-)
BTW......East San Diego County and Yucaipa are not a whole lot like Carlsbad, Del Mar, La Jolla and so on. One or two cities or areas does not a state make.
To: Joe Hadenuf
On Thursday - 1/2/03 - it will be 71 degrees in San Diego!
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posted on
12/31/2002 3:39:05 PM PST
by
CyberAnt
To: CyberAnt
Yeah, we have 67 degrees with a on shore pacific breeze at 4pm, with unlimited visiblilty......Little chilly for me. Hope it warms up tomorrow for news years day.
To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Chances are very great that I would find Oklahoma uninhabitableLOL! I've been there, nice place to visit, but being from Californy, well...... Lets just say we are a little spoiled......
Oh and nice picture on your home page...
To: Joe Hadenuf
Lets just say we are a little spoiled......Yep and lovin' every minute of it.
Happy New Year. Surf's up...hehehehehe
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