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Sheriff wants to melt down Dillinger's Tommy gun
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | December 27, 2002 | MICHAEL PUENTE AND LUCIO GUERRERO

Posted on 12/27/2002 3:59:02 PM PST by FreedomCalls

A Tommy gun stolen by John Dillinger after a brazen 1934 jail escape in Indiana could soon be molten steel.

Newly elected Lake County, Ind., Sheriff Roy Dominguez--no fan of Dillinger because he killed a cop--is thinking about throwing the infamous Colt Thompson submachine gun into a furnace at one of the county's steel mills. History experts say the gun could be worth $1 million.

"I see no sense in glorifying him or that gun...[the Tommy gun] was used in the commission of a felony," Dominguez said. "I would consider melting it down or find another way to properly dispose of it.

"By giving it notoriety continues the glorification of John Dillinger, which I think is wrong," said Dominguez, who takes office next Wednesday.

Dillinger made off with two Tommy guns after he broke out of Lake County Jail on March 3, 1934. One of them belonged to Lake County; the other was on loan from neighboring Porter County.

The guns were thought to be lost until a gun-tracking expert found both of them in FBI storage in Washington, D.C. Porter County got its gun back last year and Lake County a few months later.

Lake County's gun hasn't been on display much; it was only last month that outgoing Lake County Sheriff John Buncich publicly displayed it for the first time.

Tony Stewart, an expert on early American crimes and author of Dillinger, The Hidden Truth , points to the historical significance of the Indiana outlaw.

"Dillinger was a very important factor to the FBI's existence in the '30s. It's true, with Congress breathing down the bureau's neck, the FBI was in trouble. [Director J. Edgar] Hoover needed a big catch to save the bureau," Stewart said.

But Dominguez and other Lake County officials said they see no reason to preserve the gun.

"I don't think [having the gun melted] would destroy history," said Dominguez.

It has not been proved that Lake County's gun was used to kill anyone, but it is believed to have been used by Dillinger and his cohorts in the holdup of three or four banks following their Crown Point jailbreak. History buffs say the gun could fetch as much as $1 million at auction, but Lake County officials said they can't sell the gun.

Lake County sheriff's spokesman Loy Roberson said there is no documentation for the gun ownership and that selling it would violate the federal firearms act.

"You cannot get it titled. It doesn't have paperwork," Roberson said. "You can't sell something if you don't have paper on it. It belongs to the Lake County Sheriff's Department, but we don't have title paper on it."

The other gun stolen with the Lake County weapon is on display at the Porter County sheriff's office. The only catch: It's in the department's training room, which is not open to the public.


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To: FreedomCalls
"I see no sense in glorifying him or that gun...[the Tommy gun] was used in the commission of a felony," Dominguez said. "I would consider melting it down or find another way to properly dispose of it.

Is this guy Taliban?

41 posted on 12/27/2002 7:46:17 PM PST by BJungNan
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To: FreedomCalls
While not on the scale of the Bamiyan Buddhas, it is possible to link the thought process used to decide to destroy something historically significant that you personally don't like.

Just saw you post after think out lound that this guy sounds like Taliban. I agree with you completely. You are not wrong.

42 posted on 12/27/2002 7:47:49 PM PST by BJungNan
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To: BJungNan
Thanks. It's the first thing I thought of as well. I was worried I was going off the deep end.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

43 posted on 12/27/2002 7:50:02 PM PST by FreedomCalls
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To: FreedomCalls
I, for one, agree with the sheriff.....If...

He agrees to having the gun strapped to his chest prior to it being dropped into the furnace, I just watched "Attack of the Clones" and maybe if shown the scene where the Princess is stuck in the slag bucket he might change his mind!

44 posted on 12/27/2002 8:02:13 PM PST by Young Werther
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To: Young Werther
His web site says all you need to know:

Roy Dominguez - Democrat for Sheriff


45 posted on 12/27/2002 8:28:55 PM PST by FreedomCalls
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To: JCG
Some of Dillinger's relatives live in the same town that I live in, and they pronounce the name the same way that I have always heard it.
I would assume the family pronounces the name correctly.
46 posted on 12/27/2002 8:43:44 PM PST by hoosierpearl
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To: FreedomCalls
He looks like he has eyes for blonde Swiss boys. Definitely wears pantyhose and never goes to the range. Formerly known as Dominique Dominguez.
47 posted on 12/27/2002 9:35:11 PM PST by Bedford Forrest
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To: Snowyman
I guess they don't need money when they have asset forfeiture laws.
48 posted on 12/27/2002 9:37:37 PM PST by zeugma
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To: FreedomCalls
Jeeze, what a moron!! This idiot wants to toss a million dollars in a smelter?? Sounds like this clueless fool has been on the public tit all his life. Aren't there any county commissioners that could find a use for a million bucks? Any museum could accept this historic and irreplaceable part of Americana without any stupid papers. Idiots like this are why people don't respect the cops.
49 posted on 12/27/2002 9:42:51 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: TopQuark
You use this as an excuse to bash America? You're as stupid and dangerous as that stupid cop. Go back to France.
50 posted on 12/27/2002 9:46:08 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: FreedomCalls
I'd like to have one of those guns myself.
51 posted on 12/27/2002 9:58:49 PM PST by cruiserman
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To: hoosierpearl
Some of Dillinger's relatives live in the same town that I live in, and they pronounce the name the same way that I have always heard it.

In the newsreel of the day, where Dillinger's father was interviewed, the "g" is soft, as in gang.

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52 posted on 12/28/2002 1:49:58 AM PST by JCG
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To: ozzymandus
You use this as an excuse to bash America?

Well, in my post I wrote I wrote about "history books from the first half of XX century or before." That was America also.

You're as stupid Compared to you who is not even abla to read? I am in trouble, then.
and dangerous as that stupid cop. I know I am dangerous: I am armed.
Go back to France. There you go...

And you think you are American?

53 posted on 12/28/2002 5:38:14 AM PST by TopQuark
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To: FreedomCalls
My, my. I'll have to show the photo to my information source. Thanks!

54 posted on 12/30/2002 1:15:56 PM PST by cookiedough
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To: FreedomCalls
More destruction of history in the name of political correctness.

Another attempt to erase (or melt-down) history).

On the Dillinger episode on PBS's "The American Experience" series...it was shown
how the female head of police (sheriff?) for (IIRC) Crown Heights (or Crown Point?)
was in charge when Dillinger made his escape...

pretty amazing when even PBS will broadcast such a thing...
55 posted on 12/30/2002 1:18:59 PM PST by VOA
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