Posted on 12/27/2002 12:37:59 PM PST by RCW2001
Seoul, Dec. 27 (Yonhap) -- The United States would deploy some 690,000 troops to augment the 37,000-strong American military presence already here if war should break out on the peninsula, a Defense Ministry report showed Friday.
The augmented forces would comprise of Army divisions, carrier battle groups with highly-advanced fighters, tactical fighter wings, and marine expeditionary forces in Okinawa and on the U.S. mainland, according to the "1998-2002 Defense Policy." The ministry published the report instead of a white paper.
Red China is gone. It's just China, and China won't come to the aid of NK. China is sick and tired, not to mention embarrassed, with NK. If China comes in, it will be to cut off the back supply lines of the NK army.
Ever hear of the draft? (Could happen to our sons and daughters.)
One would be inclined to suspect that North Korea and Iraq, with perhaps some assistance from the leadership of Iran -- PLANNED this diversion in North Korea to coincide with the build up of pressure and troops near Iraq..
One can also wish, that we would be fortunate enough to be able to literally kill both these birds at the same time..
Both of those insane perverts, have been needing killing for a loooong time... Is is time now?
We have been "walking softly -- and some might say "lightly in our loafers" -- for too damned long.. Time to bring out the bat and smash some of these disbelieving bastards.
Semper Fi
* BAT is a precision weapon designed to attack and destroy mobile and relocatable targets - day or night - in adverse weather. Its warhead is capable of the destruction of armored vehicles.
* The Pre-Planned Product Improvement (P3I) system expands the baseline target set to include cold, stationary targets and time critical mobile targets such as SCUDs, multiple rocket launchers and mobile missile launchers.
Not to mention the fact that it might take years to get them all there. This is a logistical nightmare.
We're going to need about 100,000 in Iraq for occupation duty, most of the National Guard here at home for Homeland Security, 15,000 in Afghanistan, plus our Balkan deployments. We're screwed unless we restart the draft. Problem is, I think most of our young people will run for Mexico and Canada if the draft is restarted.
Actually, I disagree with you.
War in Korea would break out only if the North Koreans took an overt hostile act (consisting of a suprise attack of Main Force infantry and armor over the 38th Paralell-they have few ships worthy of the name and their air force is held together with bailing wire...)
If Plans calls for 690,000, then that means two things:
1. A complete reserve and National Guard callup.
2. Reinstitution of the draft.
The American people would accept this only if the North Koreans were stupid enough to attack and draw first blood. Which they would. They have more artillery tubes than you can shake a stick at and could lay down a barrage that could obliterate the Indianhead Division stationed at Camp Casey.
Trust me, we're not a nation of cowards. The only reason why we didn't reinstitute the draft now is because you don't fight shadow wars such as the one against Al Qaeda with massive conscript armies. Neither does one need a large conscript force to deal with Hussein's clown car force.
The North Koreans are a different matter. They make the North Vietnamese look like Girl Scouts. Case in point? The record of the ROK White Horse Division against the NVA and the VC back in the sixties. The Vietnamese did not want to be around when that unit was there.
We would need a draft. And the American people would respond. Being attacked will do that to you.
Be Seeing You,
Chris
The White Horse Division, of course, was comprised of SOUTH Koreans. Considering you're extolling the fighting qualities of the SOUTH Koreans, who have a fair amount of technological superiority over the North Koreans, and that superiority is increasing every day, that argues that one would NOT need vast hordes of US troops to assist them.
From what I've seen from Korean War vets, other than that horrible initial period before Inchon when poorly-trained and unprepared US units were fed in piecemeal and horribly outnumbered versus North Korean forces, they were pretty unimpressed with the North Koreans compared with the Chinese Communists.
Also, when looking at the fighting record of fairly small forces (like the Turks in Korea, and the ROKs in Vietnam, etc.) Keep in mind that these countries, since they were sending such a small portion of their armies, were sending fairly elite forces; the peformance of these units, while a decent indication of the abilities of their respective armies, might be a bit misleading because the troops they sent were likely far better troops than the "average" forces in their armies.
Like VII Corp didn't return to Germany after GW I,
V Corp won't be returning to Germany after GW II.
Can you fill me in on that after GW1? No recall at all on that.
"We are going to face a time at the end of your transformation in which China will have more resources at her command than the United States, and so this Asia focus, I think, cannot happen too quickly."
Fiscal 2003 Defense Budget Testimony – House Armed Services Committee (transcript)
The above transcript also contains current troop strenth and armament info.
Testifying before congress on Feb. 6/2002 is Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and Undersecretary Zakheim and also General Richard Myers.
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