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Joke empties plane Man ticketed and sent home as passengers scurry to resume travels
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel ^ | Dec. 24, 2002 | GINA BARTON

Posted on 12/25/2002 9:20:54 AM PST by gitmo

Joke empties plane
Man ticketed and sent home as passengers scurry to resume travels

As he boarded a commuter plane at the Dane County Regional Airport Tuesday morning, 33-year-old Steven M. Wiese of Cottage Grove peeked around the cockpit door and made a joke: "I hope you haven't been drinking."

The pilot didn't think it was funny. Neither did the other passengers.

"(The pilot) could see the other passengers' heads popping up like gophers coming out of their holes," said Lt. Michael Krembs of the Dane County Sheriff's Department. "The whole plane could hear. He said it really loud."

In an instant, Wiese's holiday travel plans were ruined. The flight was delayed. The other passengers had to re-book on other flights on Christmas Eve. And the pilots were checked to make sure they indeed had not been drinking.

Wiese and his wife have not flown since their honeymoon nine years ago. He had planned a trip to New York as a surprise Christmas gift for her.

"I shouldn't have said it. I regret saying it," Wiese said Tuesday afternoon. "I meant it as a joke. I had a smile on my face. But they took it the wrong way."

Atlantic Coast Airlines flight 6302, with 26 passengers aboard, was delayed. The crew reported to a medical facility to be tested for alcohol and drugs, in compliance with Federal Aviation Administration guidelines.

"Since 9-11, you can't joke about anything in an airport," Krembs said.

Wiese apologized to his fellow travelers as they got off the plane at the Madison airport and lined up at the ticket counter, hoping to be re-booked. Then he and his wife got in line, too.

"The deputies pulled them out of line and said, 'Oh, no. You're not going anywhere today,' " Krembs said.

The deputies then ticketed Wiese for disorderly conduct. He must pay a $225 fine.

That's not all.

The FBI and the U.S. attorney's office will discuss the incident after the holidays and decide whether the man should face the more serious charge of interfering with a flight crew, a federal felony that carries a maximum 20-year prison term, said Monica Shipley, FBI spokeswoman.

All of the other passengers were re-booked to their final destinations, said Rick Delisi, spokesman for Atlantic Coast Airlines. The members of the flight crew all tested negative for alcohol and other controlled substances. Their plane departed more than four hours late, at 2:05 p.m.

Delisi said the pilot followed the proper procedures.

"The crew is never meant to ask whether (people are) joking or what their motivations are," he said. ". . . People just don't realize the seriousness of what they're saying."

For Wiese, that realization came at a high price - and not just the cost of the non-refundable plane tickets. Instead of taking the trip, he and his wife now plan a quiet holiday at home trying to recover from the ordeal.

Wiese has weighed in his mind exactly what he should have done differently.

"I should have said, 'Merry Christmas.' "

A version of this story appeared in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel on Dec. 25, 2002.

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The incident at the Dane County Regional Airport is not the first time a passenger has gotten into trouble for making a comment regarded as inappropriate.

A female passenger was kicked off an America West Airlines flight in San Francisco July 8 after she asked, "Have you checked your crew for sobriety?"

A Massachusetts man was sentenced to two years' probation and fined $500 this year when airlines workers asked if he was carrying anyone else's items and he said, "Like one of those ticking cardboard boxes?"

A Delaware man was sentenced to six months in prison in 1998 for forcing a jet to make an emergency landing after joking about having explosives in his carry-on bag.

A Miami woman was arrested in 1999 for swearing at flight attendants when she blocked a meal cart and was told to move.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airport; faa; joke; security
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Comment #61 Removed by Moderator

To: gitmo
The clown got off easy! If he had said to the pilot that the country would of been better off had Strom Thurmond won the Presidential election in 1948, all hell woulda broken loose! Death penalty, no doubt!
62 posted on 12/25/2002 12:01:46 PM PST by Revolting cat!
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To: gitmo
Americans once again prove they are full of sheep and knee-jerk reactionists. Children, afraid of everything and sensitive to anything.
63 posted on 12/25/2002 12:02:20 PM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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To: gitmo
I hope that screenwriters of the next Airplane sequel are paying attention and taking notes!
66 posted on 12/25/2002 12:04:14 PM PST by Revolting cat!
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To: EricOKC
There is absolutely NO freedom from offensive speech.

BS In a private setting, the parties set the rules.

68 posted on 12/25/2002 12:14:26 PM PST by RGSpincich
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To: Yehuda
Is that your blog?
69 posted on 12/25/2002 12:19:27 PM PST by dennisw
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To: Yehuda
EARLIER...JewPoint likes President Bush, so I guess the excuse is we tease the one's we admire. Needless to say the first (and subsequent )Ramabombadan dinners were, ahem, fodder for humor. Originally posted in 2001 at (and created with) USAJewish.com, which is (was?) a nice site, except for their confusing adoration of Democrats who want to destroy Israel.

Is that it?

70 posted on 12/25/2002 12:21:51 PM PST by perfect stranger
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To: gitmo
On the other hand, those who ever worked in the service industry and have experienced the daily insults and abuse that go unpunished, will sympathize. It's an unequal relationship betwen the servant, in this case the pilot, and a paying customer. You're mixed with dirt by some dirtbag and obliged to respond with a smile! Could the pilot or a stewardess ever say to a customer boarding and aircraft: "I hope you don't vomit all over yourself on takeoff?"
71 posted on 12/25/2002 12:23:45 PM PST by Revolting cat!
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To: RGSpincich
"Reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" ring a bell?

You mouth off or become unruly at a private establishment, your gone. The guy on the plane, same thing. But in his case a bad call by the pilot, in my opinion.

72 posted on 12/25/2002 12:24:06 PM PST by RGSpincich
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To: gitmo
I concur, flying today in the USA stinks. Unfortunately, fear of litigation may have driven the pilots response. After that comment, if anything happened related to the flight - air turbulence, bumpy landing - some clown passenger could sue and claim - "Yeah, the pilots were drunk! So drunk some guy when he got on board could smell them! He even said - hey are guys drunk real loud when he got on board. And now I have (whiplash, bursitis, emotional strain, etc.) from the terrible experience and I want $1 Billon dollars please right now!"
74 posted on 12/25/2002 12:45:52 PM PST by dark_lord
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To: EricOKC
Oh wait - you live in California. THATS why you think there's a right to be protected from offensive speech. It's much clearer now.

Yes, I do understand that I have the right to remove offensive people from my establishment or abode. You allow ill-mannered people to invade your home and business? Oh wait- you are ill-mannered. It's much clearer now.

75 posted on 12/25/2002 12:48:15 PM PST by RGSpincich
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To: Pern
The whole country needs an enema.

Pern to the pilot: "Have you had your enema today?"

Pern arrested, fined and given an enema out of concern he may have packed explosives up there. Plane is deboarded with the passengers and the entire crew also undergoing preventive enemas. New security measures are called into play whereby EVERY traveler must undergo and enema before boarding a flight. And all because Pern got funny. Way to go Pern.

76 posted on 12/25/2002 12:49:08 PM PST by Life of Brian
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To: Life of Brian
My wife and I both got a laugh out of that one! I should be careful what I wish for, huh?
78 posted on 12/25/2002 1:37:25 PM PST by Pern
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To: Revolting cat!; EricOKC
EricOKC, you are correct!!

Could the pilot or a stewardess ever say to a customer boarding and aircraft: "I hope you don't vomit all over yourself on takeoff?"

Yes, they could and since we are the customer we stay screwed. The minimum wage illegal alien screener can squeeze your daughters boobs and get away with it. Great to be safe huh????

I would prefer to defend myself not depend on a "government" to protect me. Further, please come and take my guns as I might hurt myself.


Stay safe; stay armed.


79 posted on 12/25/2002 1:43:39 PM PST by Eaker
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To: dark_lord
On a slow day, we would not have required to get to reply #74 before someone nailed it the way you did. This is less about a rapidly-approaching police state, and more about a (potential) deep-pockets plaintiff covering its butt in our overly-litigious society. I'm surprised that more people don't understand that simple fact.
80 posted on 12/25/2002 1:54:43 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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