Shift of tech jobs abroad speeding up, report says

Boston Globe ^ | December 25, 2002 | Diane E. Lewis

[sarcasm]

Leading the way will be the information technology industry - the sector often credited with fueling the US economic boom of the 1990s - says the Cambridge firm's forecast.

Back-office accounting and customer-calling work are already being shipped abroad. But in the future, professional positions in technology, law, art, architecture, life sciences, and business management will be, too, says Forrester.

[dtel]

"Why don't we lower some of the economic barriers to competition that we've erected? Union contracts, environmental regulations and corporate taxes should be reformed first,..."

Who is we, you got a frog in your pocket or what?
The Boomers are in control, the pubbies have all three branches of gov, what are you waiting for?
Lead, follow or get the he!! out of the way, people are watching your progress closely.

[A. Pole]

Why don't we lower some of the economic barriers to competition that we've erected?

The main economical barrier should be the national border. Taxes on worker's income should be lowered (remember this is not a profit, most of it is spend on cost of living while corporations are not taxed on their costs of existence) and substituted with taxes on imports (tarrifs) as Founding Fathers liked it.

Companies whose labor force is majority foreign (including outsourcing or sub-contractors) should be registered as foreign agents and prohibited from lobbying American lawmakers. Also they should not be allowed to contribute to the American elections.

[sinkspur]

Lead, follow or get the he!! out of the way, people are watching your progress closely.

Which people? People like you, who use the "f" word in a post on Christmas Day?

You're just an angry man, dtel, which is why you've got all those pits.

[sinkspur]

Tariffs are taxes. The tariff Bush imposed on Canadian lumber last summer is not working, and he's about to lift them.

Tariffs in a global economy don't work. Somebody mentioned tariffs India has on imported cars. As a result, there IS no auto industry in India.

[dtel]

I do get angry when we are doing our best to turn our country into a third world cesspool sinkspur.
People like you come along and try to justify it with inane comments about undoing the regulations that others have fought so hard to impose.
Most of those others being The Boomers my tirade was directed at, if the shoe fits, wear it.
I have one pit, it was given to me, get over it.

[BlazingArizona]

What these corporate hotshots are forgetting here is that having your programming done overseas means that your source code - the readable and modifiable format of your company's proprietary software - is now on servers in dusty Bengali office parks, accessible to Allah knows who. Think about what can happen when al Qaeda has access to the software source of every American bank, hotel chain, chip fab, steel mill, chemical plant, power station, and biotech lab.

When the next 9/11 hits, we will lose so fast we will never know what happened.

[cynicom]

One has to keep everything in perspective and proper balance.

The counter flow of the outgo of tech jobs is being balanced by the inflow, three to one, of Mexican and other third world people that will do the meaningless jobs that Americans will not do.

The proper perspective is that we must look at the double impact we are having on the third world poverty. It is a win win situation for everyone. They are getting hi tech jobs and we are getting lo tech workers.

Our government is doing its very best to make us all equal by eradicating the worthless middle class. One has to admire both parties for having this egalitarian approach to globalization, surely we as voters seem to share their idealism.

[sinkspur]

People like you come along and try to justify it with inane comments about undoing the regulations that others have fought so hard to impose.

I always had you figgered for a Democrat.

Democrats love regulations that hamstring American business.

[dtel]

Pick and choose and then call me a democrat.
You are just proving my earlier points about The Boomers.
Merry Christmas

[grania]

Labor, environmental, and tax regulations are not imposed by corporations; they're imposed by the American government at the behest of the unions and goofy tree-huggers.

The laws passed in this country protect our lifestyle, economic well being, and fairness to US workers. If we don't have protections, our wages and environmental conditions will be as miserable as are those in the countries to which jobs are being exported.

[VOA]

Raising the cost of doing business is never the answer to the adverse consequences of
a high cost of doing business. What America should do is lower taxes and cut or eliminate regulation.

I suspect that if "willstayfree"'s proposal was made law...you'd soon see lots of
regulatory regs thrown on the ash-heap of history...

[SSN558]

When you are out of work, your government is not collecting the income tax it needs to feed all its programs and bureaucrats. That is when the government, be it GW's or some new socialist commie pig from the Democrats decide that enough is enough, where is mine.

[drachenfels]

Echo to your experience... I was a Network Admin guy at a firm that primarily did software development for healthcare providers. Our company was driven to expand by the board of directors, so we doubled in size in year and a half... then the economy tanked, so we slashed more than that almost overnight.

To complete projects, we hired a bunch of H-1B code cuters from india/pakistan... I was totally underwhelmed. The first month was spent getting them up to speed with the project; the second month was spent teaching them how to code, the next month was spent beating them to document what they had done... and by that point, they'd already spent twice as much time as the folks who were originally on the job... oh, and since they were consultants, they cost twice as much as the full-time employees that they replaced.

I was glad to get grabbed by my reserve unit in January; it ment that I wasn't around to see the final death spin of my employer in May '02.

Only problem is now that I'm home, I have yet to get a nibble for a new job... I'm going to have to apply for unemployment for the first time in my entire life (40 year old male). At this rate, I may volunteer to go back for another year with active duty...

cheers

[TomSmedley]

In Massachusetts and in other US tech centers, technology professionals who thought their jobs were secure are struggling to make sense of layoffs.

Treat the folks who provide a place to go, something to do, and compensation for doing it as enemies, and they'll go where they are appreciated. The People's Republic of Taxachusetts keeps insisting at the ballot box that they want to be governed by rapacious looters. Sooner or later, companies get tired of sitting around waiting for the next gang rape.

[doosee]

Think about what can happen when al Qaeda has access to the software source of every American bank, hotel chain, chip fab, steel mill, chemical plant, power station, and biotech lab.

I can tell you that Indians truly despise Moslems much more than the average American. They despise how they act, what they believe in, and their lack of intellectual capacity. And they are right in every aspect. One only needs to look at the Moslem Africa, Malaysia, and the Mid East to see what backward living is all about.

[A. Pole]

Somebody mentioned tariffs India has on imported cars. As a result, there IS no auto industry in India.

You are so amusing. Do not worry, India already is working on it. People like you underestimated Japanese, and now they are underestimating Indians.

See for example the page on Indian exporters . They will get there.

[sinkspur]

What these corporate hotshots are forgetting here is that having your programming done overseas means that your source code - the readable and modifiable format of your company's proprietary software - is now on servers in dusty Bengali office parks, accessible to Allah knows who.

Most likely, it is not. Mission-critical code is not being outsourced, and won't be until security is much more bullet-proof. Pieces of projects are the most likely candidates for outsourcing, especially conversion of first-and-second generation legacy code.

India is not particularly friendly to Muslim-terrorists.

[sinkspur]

So the easiest and quickest way to get jobs back into our country is to raise tariffs on corporations who just seem to find a way to go where costs are cheaper.

That's the quickest way to run them completely offshore.

[Willie Green]

As a result, there IS no auto industry in India.

Link to the Major Players in the Indian automotive industry.

Did you know that the Hindustan Motors was the first vehicle manufacturing company to be set up in India?

You should really learn something about what you're talking about, stinky.