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To: Kate in Palo Alto
More brillance from the Seattle Slimes.
2 posted on
12/24/2002 7:48:20 AM PST by
Sparta
To: Kate in Palo Alto
And their "silly" editorial on Trent Lott??? More media bias!
Merry Christmas
3 posted on
12/24/2002 7:50:52 AM PST by
bray
To: Kate in Palo Alto
Silly attacks indeed.The woman is a menace to US intrests, she seems to be totally oblivious to work of groups like USAID, Peace Corps, and other govt funded programs that have provided hundreds of millions of dollars and manpower to help the world. Her logic is terribly flawed. IT would be like me arguing that John Wilkes Booth was a great actor, and except for that little incident in Fords theatre, he would have done more great things.The man was a murderer who killed a President, and Bin Ladin has and will kill thousands of Americans.Patty Murray needs to be buried on the bone pile of US history and the good folks of Washington state need to elect somebody who really loves and understands America.
To: Kate in Palo Alto
Seattle is a pathetic little town full of socialists. I live across the lake in Redmond with the normal people.
Here is an article from the Seattle PI (Seattle Times' twin) that is related saying that a majority of people in Seattle are opposed to a war with Iraq:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/101303_poll24.shtml5 posted on
12/24/2002 7:52:15 AM PST by
artw
To: Kate in Palo Alto
Why not post the whole thing inasmuch as this isn't covered by the injunction?
She probed further: "How would they look at us today if we had been there helping them with some of that rather than just being the people who are going to bomb in Iraq and go to Afghanistan?"
While Murray voted against Bush's war resolution, she supports the war on terrorism and wants bin Laden brought to justice.
Nevertheless, Vance's press release has Murray sending a message that the "United States somehow deserved or brought on the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks."
Oh please, what nonsense!
A couple paragraphs later, Vance gets to his objective: "If Patty Murray really believes what she said, she should think twice about running for re-election."
Slow day around the office, Mr. Vance?
And Nethercutt, R-Spokane, released a statement full of innuendo, saying, "Congress is a place of debate. I guess we now know which side Sen. Murray will be debating from when Congress resumes."
Then Nethercutt, who voted in 1997 to withdraw from the United Nations, delivers his upshot: "I would welcome the chance to have a one-on-one debate with Sen. Murray on this topic."
Testing the political waters, congressman?
Fact is, Murray's information about bin Laden is right. The Associated Press quoted a bin Laden expert saying the senator's comments were "a generalization, but mostly accurate." Sen. Murray challenged bright students, who might be soldiers in the war on terrorism, to make sense of our nation's circumstances. How subversive!
Copyright © 2002 The Seattle Times Company
To: Kate in Palo Alto
Murray, a former teacher,It has been noted by Thomas Sowell, that colleges of education have students with the lowest SAT scores and the highest GPAs. Someone once said to me, "If you want to go into education, don't be a teacher."
She noted the wealthy bin Laden, believed to be an architect of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, has established goodwill because over the years he built buildings, roads and other facilities for poor areas.
Yes he did. They are all related to his terrorist camps. He is not the least bit philanthropistic. Not the least bit. The buildings are part of his camps, the roads lead to them, the facilities serve the terrorists.
What the Seattle Times neglects to mention is that Murray also credited OBL for building day care centers.
Day care centers?????
They are trying to diffuse this over the holidays so that it isn't a story that explodes in January. But Nethercutt will use it -- and effectively -- in 2004. It will be the first in a "Patty Murray is a complete and utter moron." campaign.
7 posted on
12/24/2002 7:58:00 AM PST by
AmishDude
To: Kate in Palo Alto
Oh those "silly attacks"
...just like on Sept. 11, 2001? </sarcasm >
12 posted on
12/24/2002 8:05:02 AM PST by
meandog
To: Kate in Palo Alto
I'm not surprised that the SeaTimes can't bring itself to provide a direct quote concerning the most controversial portion of her statement.
She noted the wealthy bin Laden, believed to be an architect of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, has established goodwill because over the years he built buildings, roads and other facilities for poor areas.
"Has established goodwill?" When in trouble, paraphrase and use passive voice.
13 posted on
12/24/2002 8:06:10 AM PST by
1rudeboy
To: Kate in Palo Alto
Wednesday, Columbia River High School honor students studying world history were treated to a discussion with their U.S. senator about world events and U.S. policy. I hope the little tykes were able to sleep the night before.
14 posted on
12/24/2002 8:08:08 AM PST by
gitmo
To: Kate in Palo Alto
She noted the wealthy bin Laden, believed to be an architect of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, has established goodwill because over the years he built buildings, roads and other facilities for poor areas. Notice they changed her words and took out the specific mentioning of schools and daycare facilities. Good example of liberal press covering for one of their own.
To: Kate in Palo Alto
And Al Capone had soup kitchens for the poor and gave out dimes to street urchins. So what?
I guess Seattle should start building that statue.
To: Kate in Palo Alto
Hint....We do not see the democrats urging her ouster, do we??? How come??? The pubs joined their dem friends in a pre Christmas bashing of Lott. Why are the dems saying nothing now???
19 posted on
12/24/2002 8:17:51 AM PST by
cynicom
To: Kate in Palo Alto
"How would they look at us today if we had been there helping them with some of that rather than just being the people who are going to bomb in Iraq and go to Afghanistan?" To let this slide from a member of Congress (the people that are spending tax money) is to completely abdicate any sort of responsibility the press (and the Seattle Times) has for oversight. The United States has given billions of dollars in aid to the Muslim world. Oslo dictated a $500 million payout to the PA. What have they done with it other than terrorize Israelis? Pakistan got a cool $600 million last year. We provide countless billions in indirect aid in the form of the Peace Corps, Red Cross, and other organizations.
Murray is an imbecilic shrew, and should be drawn and quartered in the public square, if only to warn future dunces against running for office....
22 posted on
12/24/2002 8:22:03 AM PST by
Mr. Bird
To: Kate in Palo Alto
She noted the wealthy bin Laden, believed to be an architect of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks... No doubt the Seattle Times' editor made sure that those four words were inserted into the sentence. Imagine the coronary he would have had if someone let this slip through:
She noted the wealthy bin Laden, architect of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks...
To: Kate in Palo Alto
Washington state is represented in the Senate by two dim bulbs: one blonde and one brunette.
To: Kate in Palo Alto
Since September 11, the United States has increased relief and development aid to several states in the region to help them absorb the economic shocks of war and reward them for providing logistical support in the U.S.-led war on terrorism.
Pakistan, which became a key ally in the war in Afghanistan, will get $200 million in economic aid and $50 million in military support. (In the fall of 2001, the United States lifted a ban on aid to Pakistan imposed when General Pervez Musharraf seized power in a 1999 coup.) The United States also arranged for the World Bank and the IMF to forgive about $1 billion in loans to Pakistan.
Turkey, which has provided military support and helped track terrorist financial networks, will receive $17.5 million in military aid. Previously, it had not been receiving any military aid.
Central Asian states that have provided air bases for U.S. operations will also receive military aid: Uzbekistan will get $43 million, and Kyrgyzstan will get $4 million.
Postwar Afghanistan, which is struggling to recover after years of Taliban rule and the U.S.-led war that toppled the Taliban, has already received almost $450 million in humanitarian and reconstruction aid and will also get $140 million in economic and military assistance.
30 posted on
12/24/2002 10:26:47 AM PST by
byteback
To: Kate in Palo Alto; All
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But Matthew Felling, media director for the Center for Media and Public Affairs in Washington, D.C., thinks Murray's remarks are not getting attention because they largely were correct.
Let's Organize to Oust Patty MurraySeattle Times ^ | Kate in Palo AltoThe Dems will turn this whole thing around, and portray it as an attempt by the Republicans to "get even for Trent Lott" - and the sheeple will believe it. A week from now, the national media won't even be covering this story. It will be "old news".
For Moseley-Braun, It May Be Time for a Rematch
Washington Post - 5 hours ago
... Patty Murray (D-Wash.) that charitable works made Osama bin Laden popular in
poor countries -- and her challenge to the United States to do the same. ...
Senator cites bin Laden's 'popularity'
Chicago Sun Times, IL - 5 minutes ago
Perhaps, said Washington state's senior senator, Democrat Patty Murray, it's because
he and his supporters have spent years building goodwill in poor nations ...
Senator's explanation of bin Laden's popularity draws fire%)
WKYT, KY - 20 Dec 2002
Washington-AP -- Washington Senator Patty Murray is drawing a lot of heat for
her explanation of why Osama bin Laden is popular in poor countries. ...
Potomac Watch: Senators take a break, but office mail never stops
Seattle Post Intelligencer, WA - 20 Dec 2002
In the back offices of Sens. Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell where the
mail is collected and sorted, however, there's never a slow period. ...
Dems Already Attack Frist , Santorum , McConnell . . .
NewsMax.com - 20 Dec 2002
... Patty Murray. Republicans are the only ones stupid enough to feed on their own.
Nor were any national Republicans seen having news conferences about Murray. ...
Sound Transit hires lobbyists - By Jeff Switzer - Journal ...
King County Journal Newspapers, WA - 20 Dec 2002
... I don't think they're strong enough, and I don't think we need somebody to inform
Patty Murray.'' McIver added that County Executive Ron Sims himself kept Sen. ...
Immigration: Where is the OUTRAGE??
SierraTimes.com - 20 Dec 2002
... I can hardly wait for Sen. 'Chatty' Patty Murray of Washington to hold a press conference
exclaiming how Fox & Coyotes have built schools and all those same ...
Anyone Who Questions Sen. Murray Is 'Right-Wing Hater'
Source: NewsMax
URL Source: http://newsmax.com
Published: Dec 22, 2002
Author: Carl Limbacher
The... baby butcher in tennis shoes...
CongressTraitor McDermott is on the radio RIGHT NOW defending this b!itch.
Is it possible that Sen. Murray is simply crazy? And that those who elected her were also crazy, or woefully ignorant about what she is really like?
31 posted on
12/24/2002 10:29:44 AM PST by
backhoe
To: Kate in Palo Alto
P.M. says--- "How would they look at us today if we had been there helping them with some of that rather than just being the people who are going to bomb in Iraq and go to Afghanistan?" ---
In Afghanistan women doctors are again practicing medicine and women teachers are back in the classroom. No longer are women being tied, bound, and executed in public arena's!
Help our children if Patty Murray were in the classroom today!
When this was first reported P.M. was quoted as saying to the students - your Pell Grants are at risk. P.M. sees Pell Grants vs National Security.
33 posted on
12/24/2002 10:59:14 AM PST by
malia
To: Kate in Palo Alto
Another thread in FR contains a copy of a report by the United States Agency for International Development which shows that in fiscal year 2001, prior to 9/11, the U.S committed $173,000,000 in humanitarian financial aid to Afghanistan alone. That item in itself blows a hole in Murray's argument, and I forwarded it to Joni Balter, who was probably the author of the the unsigned Times editorial.
To: Kate in Palo Alto
To:
opinion@seattletimes.com
Re: Your editorial, entitled "Sen. Murray asks students to ponder bin Laden’s popularity"
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/134599925_webmurray20.html
Greetings!
I feel that you're political slip is showing.
I don't quite see how direct quotes of a United States Senator can be viewed by your editor as "spin and distortion". Unless, of course, that the Senator is a Democrat and not a Republican.
Sen. Murray stated quite clearly that Usama bin Laden built roads, schools, homes and (unbelievably) day care centres. Fine. Where? Specifically? Did she check that "fact"? And as a news organisation, did you?
Sen. Murray stated, again with crystal clarity, that bin Laden did these things, but that the United States did not. What is she (or you) using to explain the logic underlying that conclusion? Has she forgotten the BILLIONS that the US Government sends of our tax dollars to help countries and peoples around the world? Has she forgotten the Peace Corps? Has she forgotten the hundreds of millions of dollars that we as a country sent to Afghanistan in aid and support PRIOR to 9/11? Apparently, she has.
Either that, or she's just lying.
And you're editorial repeats, and indeed augments, that lie.
You stated in your editorial, "Fact is, Murray's information about bin Laden is right. The Associated Press quoted a bin Laden expert saying the senator's comments were "a generalization, but mostly accurate." However, let's look at that a little closer. The "expert", one Michael Swetnam, has been quoted, but his research material hasn't been examined very closely. It is, in fact, nothing more than a 54 page "book" (booklet, more accurately), mostly photos, with no real analysis of Usama bin Laden or Al Qaeda. Not exactly what I would view as an "expert". Well, perhaps your standards are lower than mine. Much lower, in fact.
The truth is, Murray is wrong. Dead wrong. Her words have already spread to this region, and pro-bin Laden sites are trumpeting her words as a way to garner more support. She is providing aid and comfort to the enemy (in this case, Usama bin Laden in particular, and all terrorists in general). The last I checked, the Constitution of the United States (you know, the one she supposedly swore an oath to preserve and protect), describes her actions quite clearly. It's called "treason". You may want to check this out yourself - Article III, Section 3.
Unlike you, I happen to actually live in the Middle East. I have now for many years. I've gained a great deal of respect for the people I work for and with. And with the exception of a (very) few bigots which you will find in any culture, every single one of them thinks that Usama bin Laden is a dangerous and evil man, who perverts the religion of Islam to his own twisted purpose. They know he's not a "humanitarian", as Sen. Murray tried to portray him.
The only "nonsense" I can find is in your support of her. Senator Patty Murray must (not should) resign immediately. The other option is for her to be impeached from her seat in Congress. There is ample evidence to support this action.
Many thanks.
Doc Farmer
Doha, Qatar
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