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'Bizarre' praise of Osama riles senator's challenger
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Monday, December 23, 2002 | By Art Moore

Posted on 12/23/2002 12:09:50 AM PST by JohnHuang2

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To: seamole
that's right, Seamole, and we keep on doing it, no thanks or appreciation but you can't stop doing the right thing. But there does come a time....
41 posted on 12/23/2002 10:39:15 AM PST by Marysecretary
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To: MaggieMay
No I sound like someone who isn't so blinded by partisanship and pop-patriotism that I feel the need to attack someone for pointing out the obvious although unpopular truth
42 posted on 12/23/2002 10:40:05 AM PST by ContentiousObjector
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To: JohnHuang2
Oh, John, your posts are the best! You have made sarcasm a fine art. Keep it up. M
43 posted on 12/23/2002 10:43:56 AM PST by Marysecretary
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To: Stallone
I agree completely. Destroy her, now. She is a vicious, mean-spirited, committed socialist.
44 posted on 12/23/2002 10:44:59 AM PST by mwl1
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To: B. Rabbit
He's demon possessed and so are his followers.
45 posted on 12/23/2002 10:45:14 AM PST by Marysecretary
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To: ContentiousObjector
Your prosecutor analogy is flawed.

Just as Trent Lott was a "Southern redneck", full of racism and "code words" for segregation, Patty Murray is a "Left Coast greenneck".

Leftist greennecks have always been known for their "Death To America" stance, and have actively worked to undermine this country. The Left Coast in Washington state, which Murray represents, is particularly known for this virulent strain of anti-Americanism.

Murray was using greenneck "code words" to indoctrinate innocent American high school students, and give aid and comfort to the enemy. This is known as treason. As loyal Americans, "we will not tolerate those kinds of thoughts."

46 posted on 12/23/2002 11:04:25 AM PST by an amused spectator
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To: an amused spectator
treason?

She explained why Bin Laden is popular and what could be done to undermine him and win over his supporters.

There is no codewords here, there is no conspircy here, there is no crime of any sort.

Why is Bin Laden popular?
Because he gives people in the third world free shit, if America gave them free shit, they would like us instead of Bin Laden.

If that qualifies as a "death to america" stance, I hope Santa brings you lots of tin foil this Christmas.

47 posted on 12/23/2002 11:18:05 AM PST by ContentiousObjector
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To: ContentiousObjector
If you use the same standard against this left-winger that was used against Trent Lott all the criticisms levelled against her are equally valid. If partisanship is good for the left, why isn't it good for the right?

Because there is a double standard among the leftist media, we will not see anything come of her "aid and comfort" statements.
48 posted on 12/23/2002 11:24:09 AM PST by Auntie Dem
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To: JohnHuang2
Did anyone ask the mom in tennis shoes why OBL would build day care centers in a country where women can't go to work, can't go anywhere or do anything, including go to school? Why would they need day care centers? These mom's are at home - no need for day care centers.

What is this woman's IQ? Must be in the room temperature range for her to say such stupid things.
49 posted on 12/23/2002 11:31:18 AM PST by .38sw
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To: Auntie Dem
I use to think that it was impossible for me to be a Senator. You have to be very intellectual (and I am not)...then I listen to what some of them say... and think... I am just too smart... So, I still can't be a Senator.
50 posted on 12/23/2002 11:31:35 AM PST by Saint Athanasius
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To: B. Rabbit
Go ahead and apologize for this Senator's comments.

I didn't "Try to apologize" for anything, you moron...Of course, you knew that, didn't you? I simply told you that you stating she was "Western-Hating" is as bad as the liberals calling Lott a racist. Which is simple fact. And you posting on a conservative forum doesn't change that fact.

51 posted on 12/23/2002 12:09:32 PM PST by Johnny Shear
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To: ContentiousObjector
There is no codewords here, there is no conspircy here, there is no crime of any sort.

Keep telling yourself that. Maybe it will come true in your own little world, Dorothy. Klick your heels together three times and keep saying "there are no leftists in the universities, the media or the Senate".

As for me, I'm all too familiar with the flying monkeys of the Left, and I know for a fact that they're real.

52 posted on 12/23/2002 1:33:23 PM PST by an amused spectator
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To: Nachum
He is popular amoung a number of peoples who hate America. In places like Mexico, the Azlan crazies here in California, and a huge number of leftists world wide.

Oh! You mean the people who want something for nothing?

53 posted on 12/23/2002 1:36:17 PM PST by lonestar
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To: ContentiousObjector
Bin Laden gives nothing that won't shoot or blow up to anyone. Where did you get the lamebrained contrary idea?

The U.S. or its citizens don't build hospitals or schools across the third world? Where did you get that lamebrain contrary idea?

Bin Laden was beloved by some because many in the world hate the U.S. and everything it stands for: freedom, opportunity, equality, humanity. Anyone who hates America or any other powerful country will find plenty of friends and admirers.

Murray is an idiot and was totally wrong with her comments.
54 posted on 12/23/2002 1:50:44 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit
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To: ContentiousObjector
I'm really flabergasted at your response. Where do you get the notion that the U.S. has not engaged in extensive humanitarian aid overseas?

Besides the U.S. government, millions upon millions are donated either directly or in the form of services from private U.S. charities to many, many third world countries. We are not just building hospitals, we are putting our people in them, and our medicines and our doctors.

You know, you really sound like a liberal, the kind so bent on hating America that you are blinded to the great good America does around the world. Either that or you are a plant from Murray's office engaging in damage control.

Seriously, your comments are so "out there", so seemingly misinformed, I can not even fathom that you are being serious. You are joking, right?

55 posted on 12/23/2002 8:31:12 PM PST by BJungNan
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To: BJungNan
I don't hate America, and I have been here a little to long to be a DNC plant.

Look at what she said, don't read some loud, crass, overblown partisan editorial, look at what she said. She didn't say "praise Allah, Allah Akbar, DEATH TO AMERICA!

There is a reason Bin Laden has so much support, there is a reason people refuse to believe he is responcible for 9/11 and there is a reason people are happy to kill for him.

All the Senator did was explain WHY Bin Laden is supported, and what America can do undermine his support.

It's a battle for the hearts and minds of the pathetic starving illiterate masses, it's no differant than dropping candy bars wraped in american flags over occupied Europe during the second world war.

The entire problem here is people have become to eagar to be offended, taking anything out of context just so they have an excuse to go ranting and raving. "Oh, Trent Lott is the reincarnation of Hitler, blah blah blah", "Some democrat trashes some obscure Bush policy "Senator _______ supports the terrorists, ship them to Gitmo, try them for treason, blah blah blah." People support Bin Laden because he does nice shit for them, "Oh, she is a member of Al Quada, she supports Bin Laden, off to the electric chair, blah, blah, blah

PEople don't support Bin Laden because they think he has a cool beard and they aren't born hating America.

If we don't win their hearts and minds, they are ripe for the picking by the terrorists.

56 posted on 12/23/2002 9:43:20 PM PST by ContentiousObjector
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To: ContentiousObjector

Okay, Let's look at exactly what she said.

Here is a transcription from a recording of Sen. Patty Murray's remarks at Vancouver's Columbia River High School on Wednesday, Dec. 18: 

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(This) is very highly debatable. I don't know which way I fall on it. But I want you to think about it. 

Osama bin Laden has been very, very effective being we've got to ask, why is this man so popular around the world? 

Why are people so supportive of him in many countries? He has been in many countries that are riddled with poverty. 

People don't have phones, no sewers, no roads, no schools, no health care, no facilities just to make sure their daily lives are OK. 

He's been out in these countries for decades building roads, building schools, building infrastructure, building day care facilities, building health care facilities, and the people are extremely grateful. It made their lives better. 

We have not done that. We haven't been out in many of these countries helping them build infrastructure. 

How would they look at us today if we had been there helping them with some of that rather than just being the people who are going to bomb in Iraq and go to Afghanistan? 

The argument back is that is going to cost a lot of money. Absolutely right. 

And the second argument is that we have schools here and health care facilities here that are really hurting. Should our tax dollars go to pay for facilities in third world countries? 

No easy answers, but expensive both ways. But war is expensive, too. 

Right now we've decided that war is the way we are going to go, and your generation ought to be thinking about whether or not you believe that perhaps we should be better neighbors out in other countries so that they have a different vision of us. 

It's going to cost money. You'll have to think about whether you want to do that or not, about whether we have the money to do that here. But it is a debate I think we ought to have." 

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Besides this women being totally and completely wrong in her facts, she is indeed praising the man responsible for the deaths of 3000 Americans as being a good humanitarian. In no sense of the term is this man a humanitarian.

Osama Bin Laden is a mass murderer. Shame on her - and you - for not recognizing this quite simple fact.

57 posted on 12/23/2002 10:20:41 PM PST by BJungNan
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To: BJungNan
I can explain to you why people buy hustler magazine, that doesn't mean I am defending Larry Flynt.

Osama bin Laden has been very, very effective being we've got to ask, why is this man so popular around the world?

Why are people so supportive of him in many countries? He has been in many countries that are riddled with poverty.

Get a grip, there is alot of bad things in the world, you might like to find something better to be offended by than someone explaining geo-politics

59 posted on 12/23/2002 10:38:18 PM PST by ContentiousObjector
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To: Marysecretary
=^)
60 posted on 12/23/2002 10:44:54 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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