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To: ContentiousObjector

Okay, Let's look at exactly what she said.

Here is a transcription from a recording of Sen. Patty Murray's remarks at Vancouver's Columbia River High School on Wednesday, Dec. 18: 

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(This) is very highly debatable. I don't know which way I fall on it. But I want you to think about it. 

Osama bin Laden has been very, very effective being we've got to ask, why is this man so popular around the world? 

Why are people so supportive of him in many countries? He has been in many countries that are riddled with poverty. 

People don't have phones, no sewers, no roads, no schools, no health care, no facilities just to make sure their daily lives are OK. 

He's been out in these countries for decades building roads, building schools, building infrastructure, building day care facilities, building health care facilities, and the people are extremely grateful. It made their lives better. 

We have not done that. We haven't been out in many of these countries helping them build infrastructure. 

How would they look at us today if we had been there helping them with some of that rather than just being the people who are going to bomb in Iraq and go to Afghanistan? 

The argument back is that is going to cost a lot of money. Absolutely right. 

And the second argument is that we have schools here and health care facilities here that are really hurting. Should our tax dollars go to pay for facilities in third world countries? 

No easy answers, but expensive both ways. But war is expensive, too. 

Right now we've decided that war is the way we are going to go, and your generation ought to be thinking about whether or not you believe that perhaps we should be better neighbors out in other countries so that they have a different vision of us. 

It's going to cost money. You'll have to think about whether you want to do that or not, about whether we have the money to do that here. But it is a debate I think we ought to have." 

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Besides this women being totally and completely wrong in her facts, she is indeed praising the man responsible for the deaths of 3000 Americans as being a good humanitarian. In no sense of the term is this man a humanitarian.

Osama Bin Laden is a mass murderer. Shame on her - and you - for not recognizing this quite simple fact.

57 posted on 12/23/2002 10:20:41 PM PST by BJungNan
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To: BJungNan
I can explain to you why people buy hustler magazine, that doesn't mean I am defending Larry Flynt.

Osama bin Laden has been very, very effective being we've got to ask, why is this man so popular around the world?

Why are people so supportive of him in many countries? He has been in many countries that are riddled with poverty.

Get a grip, there is alot of bad things in the world, you might like to find something better to be offended by than someone explaining geo-politics

59 posted on 12/23/2002 10:38:18 PM PST by ContentiousObjector
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To: BJungNan
I hope to have some time to use your outline of her quotes - maybe send her a letter (as one of her constituents here in latte land). Something like:

Dear Ms. Murray:

I am not affiliated with Osama in any way, and disagree with him on many issues. I would like for you to know of our organization and the many great things we have done for our community - especially our youth.

With many of the children from broken homes, or drugged-out parents living on welfare, we provide them with a sense of family and community. Our afternoon recreation activities help keep them active, and most of them also work.

They find that not only is the money a welcome addition, but their sense of purpose and being part of a team helps build their self-esteem.

We help find shelter for those who need it, and sources of income for those who need money. Some of our older youth really get a kick out of seeing how the younger children look up at them and the success that they enjoy.

It's too bad the the local, state and federal governments can't reach out to these youth like we do. If you would like to arrange a meeting sometime and learn more of our endeavors, please feel free to contact me at the adress below.




Emilio Head Gangbanger
The Bloods
Pioneer Square, Seattle (after 11:30 pm)



66 posted on 12/23/2002 11:38:23 PM PST by geopyg
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