'Scooze me, they don't have the competence to go anywhere.
Hmmm. So all these years our senses have been right and the PC police who wanted to deny reality were wrong.
Surprising that the NY Effin' Times didn't ignore this one...
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Dr. Feldman said the finding essentially confirmed the popular conception of race. He said precautions should be taken to make sure the new data coming out of genetic studies were not abused.Poor Dr. Feldman. He's gonna be demonized for sure.
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The new medical interest in race and genetics has left many sociologists and anthropologists beating a different drum in their assertions that race is a cultural idea, not a biological one. The American Sociological Association, for instance, said in a recent statement that "race is a social construct" and warned of the "danger of contributing to the popular conception of race as biological."
Who knew? I think the social engineers have too much invested in trying to convince people that without them we would degrade into barbarians. Us sheeple need to be guided you know.
I'll be sure to remember that next time I go to Club Med in Guadalupe, near the Equator. While I am having lunch with my new acquaintances, Sven, from Sweden, and Akiri, from Ghana, I'll mention to them to use the exact same suntan lotion, since, the apparent difference in their skin color is actually a social construct.
DUH alert
However, although sickle cell disease is common in US and UK Blacks, I saw very few cases when I worked in East Africa, mainly because the people lived high up in the mountains where malaria was rare. The only case of Sickle cell disease was in a lady from Malawi whose husband worked at the local mine.
And "Scandanavians" with hemochromatosis is probably true. But Finns are not "scandanavians", but have linguistic and cultural similarities to American Indians. In Minnesota, the Finns and Chippewa got along because of this.
Just the other day we read a report on FR about a team of scientists who discovered that race had no meaning genetically -- now we find out that there really IS such a thing as race?!?!
But seriously, I have a copy of "The History and Geography of Human Genes" by Cavalli-Sforza et al, that I got in 1994, that says pretty definitively what this article says. The book is as big as an unabridged dictionary, with chart after chart and map after map of very rigorous, thoroughly annotated analysis of DNA from thousands of blood samples from all over the world.
Point being, why is this being released as if it were a new insight?
The differences among the ethnic groups are apparent but slowly changing over time as the groups mix. It seems likely to me that within ten or twenty more generations there will be very few distinct ethnic groups as people intermarry.
This is a good thing, I think, because two or three more generations of white-only marriages for my offspring and you'll be able to read through us.
Well, I'll be damned! I wonder how many Federal Grant dollars that those Professors pocketed to reach the same conclusion as my 4th grade "Weekly Reader" reached back in the dark ages. Now, let's get back to more serious stuff - like raising college tuition, so the universities can attract all these brilliant people (LOL).
Interesting side note - some recent studies suggest that there was a 'bottleneck' in human genetic diversity that occurred around 70,000 - 75,000 years ago. The implication of such a bottleneck is that the population was drastically reduced by some event or circumstance. That time perios happens to coincide with the eruiption of a supervolcano near New Zealand known as Tova.
Abstract--------------------------------------------------
A debate has arisen regarding the validity of racial/ethnic categories for biomedical and genetic research. Some claim ‘no biological basis for race’ while others advocate a ‘race-neutral’ approach, using genetic clustering rather than self-identified ethnicity for human genetic categorization. We provide an epidemiologic perspective on the issue of human categorization in biomedical and genetic research that strongly supports the continued use of self-identified race and ethnicity.
Some claim and others
advocate. Shouldn't "science"
be more than dueling
claims and counter claims?
Is science just "Hardball" with
guys in long, white coats?
Exactly.
Race is a construct based roughly on geographical considerations.
Race exists sociologically, but as this study points out, markers are in all of the five populations.
This NY Times article (and most of the PC based spin) play up the ostensible 5 groups confirming race theory, when in fact the study does not back their heacy races-based world view. Liberals like to make up as many differences in people as possible so they distort findings like this.
And who put this in this computer.
Where did the bad punctuation and grammar ("more commoner"???) come from, Pharmboy?
Illustrates how the introduction of PC'ness into science enables some to ignore facts.
Just an fyi.
