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Iraqi Report Could Prove Damaging to Germany
Deutsche Welle ^ | December 16, 2002 | Deutsche Welle

Posted on 12/17/2002 12:47:16 PM PST by RobFromGa

Iraqi Report Could Prove Damaging to Germany
Iraq’s declaration of its weapons programs contains explosive news for Germany, a Berlin paper has reported. The dossier is said to detail covert arms deals between German defense firms and Iraq.

Just as the heated debates within the German government over the role of German troops and equipment in a possible war against Iraq seem to be cooling down, another potential bombshell threatens to reignite the fires.

On Tuesday, the Berlin-based left-wing paper, Tageszeitung reported that aspects of the 12,000-page Iraqi report on Iraq's weapons programs, submitted to the U.N last week, could prove highly embarrassing for Germany.

The newspaper - believed to be the first to have access to the top-secret dossier - has written that the Iraqi declaration contains the names of 80 German firms, research laboratories and people, who are said to have helped Iraq develop its weapons program.

Germany, Iraq’s number one arms supplier?

The most contentious piece of news for Germany is that the report names it as the number one supplier of weapons supplies to Iraq. German firms are supposed to easily outnumber the firms from other countries who have been exporting to Iraq.

They have delivered technical know-how, components, basic substances and even entire technical facilities for the development of atomic, chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction to Iraq right since 1975.

In some cases, conventional military and technical dealings between Germany and Iraq are said to date till 2001, ten years after the second Gulf war and a time when international sanctions against Saddam Hussein are still in place.

The paper reports that the dossier contains several indications of cases, where German authorities right up to the Finance Ministry tolerated the illegal arms cooperation and also promoted to it to an extent.

Wait and watch says German Finance Ministry

The German Finance Ministry has said that it will react to the report only once it has studied the Iraqi declaration.

"We’ll first wait till the report is in our hands," a spokesman from the ministry said on Tuesday.

The spokesman however said that the German government of the time in 1990 had informed the parliament about such German supplies to Iraq.

Ever since Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990, there has been a strict embargo against the country. The spokesman said that there have been a few cases of violation of the embargo and the government has initiated investigations.

German military exports to Iraq nothing new

Explosive as the newspaper report may appear, it’s not the first of its kind.

For months rumors have been circulating in the German media of murky deals between German arms companies and businessmen with Iraq despite the rigid embargoes in place.

In October this year, a magazine of the German radio channel, Südwestrundfunk reported that electronics giant Siemens had delivered specialized technical equipment to Iraq for the treatment of kidney stones, but which could also under certain circumstances be used as a detonator for atom bombs.

Siemens insisted that the device could not be misused because it had commissioned an Iraqi company to regularly monitor the equipment. In fact the delivery was even sanctioned by the sanctions council of the U.N. and the Federal Office of Economics and Export Control (BAFA).

The latest newspaper report also touches upon the gray zone between medicine and armaments and writes of so-called dual-use goods that can be used for developing weapons as well as for civilian purposes.

The German government was apparently informed in 1999 of the delivery of such dual-use goods to Iraq, but is said to have turned a blind eye.

German defense firms conduct roaring trade with Baghdad

German arms companies in the meantime have been conducting booming business with Iraq in recent years. According to the German Federal Statistics Office, German military exports to Iraq have been steadily rising from year to year.

From annual exports amounting to 21,7 million euro in 1997, the volume of exports for the following year shot to some 76,4 million euro. The trend continued in 2001 with exports to Iraq bringing German firms profits in the range of 336,5 million euro.

German goods worth 226,2 million euro have already been shipped to Iraq in the first half of this year. Some of the official heavyweights in the export scene are the German electronics firm Siemens with medical equipment and energy distribution systems and carmaker DaimlerChrysler. Both are reported to rake in revenues worth double digit figures in the millions.

Chancellor Schröder in precarious situation

Though the German government has not officially reacted to the Iraqi declaration detailing its role in supplying Iraq with arms, there is little doubt that the issue is bound to stoke passions.

Ever since Chancellor Gerhard Schröder refused to be part of any military action in Iraq before the German general elections in September, Berlin’s relation to Washington has been a strained one.

German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder

With Schröder sticking to his pacifist line, but dithering over the level of cooperation with the U.S. in the case of a war against Iraq, the latest report is guaranteed to provide ammunition to the opposition who have strongly criticized Schröder’s policy towards America.

Another real fear is that Schröder’s image as a staunch pacifist might now be sullied if it emerges that Germany has all along been helping the very leader who it has been unwilling to topple, to stockpile his weapons.

The report could also provide the U.S. with an excuse to step up the pressure on Germany to give in to American military demands for deployment of German troops and use of German military equipment in the case of a military attack on Iraq.



TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Germany
KEYWORDS: germany; iraq; weapons
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To: Rye
That they did not portray the antagonists in the movie version of sum of all fears as arabs, but rather as neo -nazis is the number ONE reason I did not go see it and will not go. We mustn't portray arabs negatively , must we?. It seems I recall they had no problem portraying the Irish as bad ass IRA terrorists in patriot games. No problem there, huh?. Pc bulls#$t.

Slainte,

CC

21 posted on 12/17/2002 1:46:37 PM PST by Celtic Conservative
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To: RobFromGa
Siemens insisted that the device could not be misused because it had commissioned an Iraqi company to regularly monitor the equipment.

Well, with all these safeguards in place, what's the problem?

22 posted on 12/17/2002 1:50:13 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: RobFromGa
Read the report. It sais from 1975 and the German government was informed in 1990.

Yeaaahh SOO!!!

Of course they sold weapons to them!! Iraq was fighting Muslim Fundamentalist Iran at the time. France sold them F1 fighters and USA sold them weapons as well.

If Germany was number one seller then Yugoslavia must be number 2. The number of Yugoslav engineers that worked in Iraq over the 1980's is huuuge. Yugoslavian contractors built their bunkers and aircraft shelters. They cooperated on a MRLS design so many other things.

You are reading this with a 00 decade mind set where Iraq is bad and there is a war on terror. In the 1980's Iraq was as good as it got in the Arab world.

23 posted on 12/17/2002 1:55:55 PM PST by bobi
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To: Celtic Conservative; Rye
On the other hand, GOP "Governor" Arnold Schwarzenegger has a couple movies with "traditional" enemies that have gotten a lot of criticism: True Lies, with them A-rabs, and Collateral Damage, with the Columbian drug cartels/terrorists.
24 posted on 12/17/2002 1:58:16 PM PST by JohnnyZ
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To: MissAmericanPie
We here at FR knew this for some time. It especially got talked about right before Germany's recent elections...how the Bush administration held off, though they culd have blown them out of the water. No slam on the Bush admin--it was the right thing to do at the time.
25 posted on 12/17/2002 2:10:18 PM PST by MonroeDNA
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To: bobi
From the article:

In some cases, conventional military and technical dealings between Germany and Iraq are said to date till 2001, ten years after the second Gulf war and a time when international sanctions against Saddam Hussein are still in place.

Did you read that part?

26 posted on 12/17/2002 2:14:41 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: bobi
please read the whole article.
27 posted on 12/17/2002 2:19:11 PM PST by RobFromGa
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To: RobFromGa
HOLDEN SIE MEIN BIER, BITTE!!!
28 posted on 12/17/2002 2:47:03 PM PST by The Old Hoosier
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To: RobFromGa
... seem strange to anyone that our worst imaginings and fears regarding the "evil" our "friends" have committed behind our backs -- always seems to be proven FACT.

Truth is, conservatives are not paranoid, just right about our "allies" and "friends", like China, Russia, Germany and France... enemies all.

And I surmise that this truth is too hard for us to handle, or Bush/Cheney would tell us up front. These Nations are STILL our enemies. Bitter and secretive, but enemies none the less.

THEY think we don't know. Cannot prove it afterall. They are wrong, and proving it matters not.

I wish I was wrong about Russia, I like their president. Like and Trust are two very different things. Glad we get the missile shield in about 13 mos... 2004 they say, cuz I think we are going to be needing it. Perhaps before then.
29 posted on 12/17/2002 2:47:29 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: RobFromGa
OH the IRONY if true. Schroeder must have started breathing normally after his bashing of Bush on Iraq...now this.
30 posted on 12/17/2002 2:59:01 PM PST by cake_crumb
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To: RobFromGa
"The spokesman however said that the German government of the time in 1990 had informed the parliament about such German supplies to Iraq."

There must be something to this...THAT is definitely that lefty dance so popular on both sides of the pond: The Hindquarter Coverage Scramble.

31 posted on 12/17/2002 3:27:41 PM PST by cake_crumb
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To: Rye
"Somehow, news that Germany is covertly selling WMD to a nation hellbent on gassing Israel isn't the least bit suprising"

Nope. Same story, new packaging.

32 posted on 12/17/2002 3:35:31 PM PST by cake_crumb
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To: elhombrelibre
"Same story. Different century"

That too.

33 posted on 12/17/2002 3:41:00 PM PST by cake_crumb
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To: concerned about politics
"Saddam reminds me of Hitler."

Yep. Saddam is a a real Hitler Mini Me...speaking of Germany, Hitler and Saddam (who patterened himself after Hitler), I wonder when we'll find a Yasser/Germany connection as well? After all, Saddam and Yasser are both Nazis, with ties to the Nazi party.

34 posted on 12/17/2002 3:43:42 PM PST by cake_crumb
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To: July 4th
Bush ought to demand that German pilots fly German planes over Iraq and draw fire. Serves them right. Oh, Gerhard Schröder ought to be tied to the tail of one those planes and used as bait.
35 posted on 12/17/2002 3:56:29 PM PST by ex-Texan
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To: bobi
"Read the report. It sais from 1975 and the German government was informed in 1990"

Wow, YOU'VE read the FULL REPORT ALREADY??

The article states that:

"From annual exports amounting to 21,7 million euro in 1997, the volume of exports for the following year shot to some 76,4 million euro. The trend continued in 2001 with exports to Iraq bringing German firms profits in the range of 336,5 million euro."

36 posted on 12/17/2002 3:57:43 PM PST by cake_crumb
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To: cake_crumb
Industrial Germany warred for the world in 1912, 1938, and now wars in 2002.
37 posted on 12/17/2002 3:58:15 PM PST by MrPeanut
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To: cake_crumb
Verrrry Innterrrrestink !
38 posted on 12/17/2002 4:00:56 PM PST by PoorMuttly
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To: PoorMuttly
The Iron Wall came down so East Germany (The real Industrial Germany) could infiltate and spread to establish the foundation for the next world war.
39 posted on 12/17/2002 4:04:00 PM PST by MrPeanut
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To: RobFromGa
Any one know if this "Deutsche Welle" is a reputable source?

It's the German equivalent of the Voice of America. I haven't listened in years, (actually, I suppose, decades) but I like how, in this story, they frankly describe the paper they are quoting as "left wing."

Yes, I think Deutsche Welle is reputable, as state-owned media goes. Of course, all Deutsche Welle is reporting is that a less reputable source is saying this.

40 posted on 12/17/2002 4:06:17 PM PST by Steve Eisenberg
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