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What you NEVER see is an honest discussion of the catastrophic costs of CO2 capture and sequestation.

Couple this with the lack of clear evidence that we have a problem and you've got a head shaker.

1 posted on 12/15/2002 5:55:40 AM PST by The Raven
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To: The Raven
"Follow the money trail" a wise man once said. But then why not use the B.S./El Crapo/Phoney Baloney of "CO²" as our excuse to drasticly reduce aliens/tourists visits to our country. These folks sho do emit alot of CO², you know.
2 posted on 12/15/2002 6:18:46 AM PST by Waco
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"What they fail to report is that this increase was measured mostly in and around urban centers, and therefore indicates urban—not global—warming." --
For example in Houston they now take the temperatures at Bush airport which is covered with asphalt and buildings, and the temp. is higher there. They don't take the temps. out in the country, where they would get no temp. increase.

"Even more interesting, but also left unreported, is the fact that from 1946 until 1975, while industrialization expanded and carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere increased, urban surface temperatures actually cooled. At the time, many in the media feared a new ice age. Such facts throw into question the belief that global warming exists and that industrialization is affecting the earth's temperature." --
SO TRUE!!!!! And what caused the Ice Age and the Global warming afterward that made it possible for earth to sustain abundant life?????

climate change is a natural phenomenon, which has been going on for hundreds of millions of years. Ice core samples from the Arctic, for example, show an 18ºF temperature variation during the last 160,000 years. Dr. Singer further notes that solar activity greatly affects the temperatures and the climate on earth. --
They just don't take into account natural climate cycles. For example some years it snows here, some years it doesn't. We have really hot summers and mild ones. Some years it is really wet, flooding, etc. Some years we have droughts. All here in tiny Lake Jackson Texas. Lots of climate cycles, fluctuations.... One year we had three floods here, 1979. We laughing call that year Global Flooding. HA If you talk to the guys who do the repair work on home A/C units they will tell you how the temperatures fluctuate. They are smarter than the "scientists".

3 posted on 12/15/2002 6:38:59 AM PST by buffyt
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Of the 745mt of CO2 released into the atmosphere each year, just 7mt is the result of man. That's about 0.94% of the total.

3mt of that 7mt is absorbed by the oceans(0.40%of total/43%of man-made CO2), 2mt remains in the atmosphere(0.27%of total/28.5%of man-made) and 2mt is taken up by other means, mostly plant life.

4 posted on 12/15/2002 6:48:24 AM PST by PeaceBeWithYou
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"There Has Been No Global Warming for the Past 70 Years, the Arctic - which according to essentially all climate models is supposed to be the harbinger of things to come for the rest of the world - is not yet as warm as it was in the late 1930s and early 1940s. In fact, because temperatures were so high for so long back then, the authors report that linear regression trends calculated from the 1920s to the present show a small but statistically significant cooling tendency." This is from CO2 Science Magazine, written by Sherwood Keith and Craig Idso, appearing December 11, 2002.

What one is not told, is that there were five reports submitted to the environmental committee studying global warming. Only one report mentioned global warming. One out of five! So, the scientists with their on agenda to push, chose the report that said there was global warming.

I suggest everyone read "the skeptical environmentalist" by Bjorn Lomborg. He has chapters on global warming, forestation, etc. Lots of fact, graphs and quotes which you can use to debunk the global warming alarmists.
11 posted on 12/15/2002 8:06:23 AM PST by jazerb
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To: The Raven; hellinahandcart; Carry_Okie; KLT; kristinn; Angelwood; kitchen; farmfriend; ...
A Fred Singer Bump! www.sepp.org
15 posted on 12/15/2002 9:23:39 AM PST by sauropod
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I have always asked the same question of these "Global Warmers" and they never give any answer:

If you are right, how come the seas are not sterile after all the oil spilled into the oceans during the First and Second World Wars?"

I once did some research in college some 40 years ago and the results were astounding! Wish I remembered the exact figures, but the vast tonnage of oil and Avigas spilled in those two conflicts makes the current one off Spain (excuse the pun) a drop in the ocean.

Mankind is a pinprick compared to the power of Mother Nature.

18 posted on 12/15/2002 9:52:21 AM PST by sonofatpatcher2
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If you consider that glaciers once covered Kansas, you will see that global warming has been going on for a long time and you will understand that not all global warming is bad. In fact, there is more land area uninhabitable by cold (northern Canada, Siberia, Antarctica) than there is by heat (the Sahara, the Gobi, Arabia).
20 posted on 12/15/2002 11:42:05 AM PST by FreedomCalls
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Dr. Fred Singer, professor of environmental sciences and former director of the National Weather Satellite Service, explains that climate change is a natural phenomenon, which has been going on for hundreds of millions of years.


My argument with dimwitted leftists has always been, just how do you plan to legislate and enact laws that will reverse the laws of nature?

22 posted on 12/15/2002 11:53:57 AM PST by Fintan
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Any reporter actively in search for the facts on global warming would easily discover that during the last three years more than 17,000 American scientists, including geophysicists, climatologists, meteorologists, and oceanographers, have signed the Oregon Petition declaring that "There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of . . . greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate." [http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p357.htm]

One more time...
Yes, global warming may be developing.
No it's not anthropogenic.

Yes, it is the ultimate moron assertion that we can "muscle" climate in any specific direction that we choose, no matter what we do.

The global warming industry is like a vampire... and we haven't yet found the magic wooden stake.
The industry is merely a reincarnation of the socialist hunger for control under whatever guise works.

People just aren't buying it.
Too bad for the controllers.

27 posted on 12/15/2002 1:27:13 PM PST by Publius6961
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Monday morning global cooling bump.
31 posted on 12/16/2002 9:24:43 AM PST by Some hope remaining.
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To: The Raven
Edward Teller good enough for me, plus all the other People of the Mind:

Global Warming Petition Project Here

32 posted on 11/28/2009 12:18:30 PM PST by Art in Idaho
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