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TERROR OF BIN LADEN'S 20 BACKPACK NUKES developing
Drudgereport.com ^ | drudge

Posted on 12/14/2002 4:25:43 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

PAPER: Osama bin Laden has bought nuclear firepower from renegade KGB agents, Tony Blair and George Bush have been warned... Developing...


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: backpacknukes; sphincterfactor10
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To: Dog Gone
"or maybe even lockbox nukes."

Egad! They're holding Algore hostage.

What ransom have they asked? If it's over 25 cents a board foot, they're not gonna get it...

61 posted on 12/14/2002 5:08:51 PM PST by okie01
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To: dennisw
[applause]
62 posted on 12/14/2002 5:09:15 PM PST by PianoMan
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To: Dog Gone
All right! We've moved from suitcase nukes to backpack nukes!

It's not so ridiculous. Here's a photo of our Davy Crockett system:

The weighed only 51 pounds and was 30" long. However, the yield was only 0.01 kilotons.

63 posted on 12/14/2002 5:09:16 PM PST by mikegi
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To: Diddle E. Squat
I think I know who you mean but I couldn't seem to ping him(/her).
64 posted on 12/14/2002 5:09:44 PM PST by PianoMan
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To: tortoise; Nick Danger; blam; Dog Gone; Travis McGee
"If I were the Russians, I would have happily sold them dud nukes knowing that they couldn't really test them."

That's my theory on how we'll capture bin ladin (presuming he's still alive).

We set up the Russian mafia with a nice upfront payoff and immunity from several prosecutions, and in exchange, they sell a nice "package" or two or three to some radical Islamic terrorist organizations.

Of course, the egos involved mandate that the very TOP terrorists in those organizations actually take a look at the bombs when they take possession, and of course, we've outfitted such weapons with a nice little GPS homing transmitter (and maybe even a self-destruct).


And why will it work? Human nature. People are controlled by what they "want" in life.

So to trap a person, you give them what they want.

It's time-tested.

65 posted on 12/14/2002 5:11:17 PM PST by Southack
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To: PianoMan
The Coca Cola Screams Like A Thief In The Night. The Phone Rings Flourescent.
66 posted on 12/14/2002 5:11:43 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: big ern
Oh yeah ? Well right back at em-

Given the fact that the U.S. B54 Special Atomic Demolition Munition (SADM) was man portable, it's covert emplacement in or near harbors, SLBM bases, airfields, dams, bridges, airfields, command posts, and nuclear weapons storage areas was probably extensively practiced by KGB and GRU Spetsnaz (Army and Navy) at their training facilities (some of which just happened to resemble NATO bases). Under the circumstances, covert infiltration into NATO territory or even into the U.S. with a SADM would not have been a difficult task during the Cold War. In fact, Soviet KGB operatives stored tons of explosives near U.S. and NATO facilities as revealed by KGB archivist Vasily Mitrokhin in his bestseller "The Sword and the Shield".

The unclassified U.S. Army Field Manual 5-25 reveals the SADM had a mechanical timer with delays avaliable from five minutes to twenty-four hours. The B54 was available to U.S. Army ADM platoons, Special Forces, and U.S. Navy SEAL's from August 1964 to the mid 1980's. In addition to heavy security in storage area's, a mechanical Permissive Action Link was used to prevent unauthorized detonation.

Department of Energy Historical Films offers a short clip on this weapon, entitled "SADM Delivery by Parachutist" (0800031) of nearly ten minutes duration. For more information, visit the 463X0 Home Page and click on the DOE Historical Films link.

The bottom right corner of the page / link, has a US SADM device (nuclear) man portable- couldn't get the image to display in this post...

http://www.geocities.com/usaf463/russwpns.html

67 posted on 12/14/2002 5:13:01 PM PST by freepersup
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To: Southack
"The half-life of the triggers for such atomic weapons is typically 60 days, after that, the weapon requires new radioactive material (as well as specialized electronincs maintenance)."

As in tritium - but I thought the half-life was measured in years, not months. In any event, re tritium's criticality [exquisite double entendre] to the effectiveness of our nukes, recall that the Cowardly Quisling Poofterboy Klinton tried to shut down the only plant manufacturing tritium. Perhaps he intended to buy it from the Chinese Commies, through the good offices of Senator Feinslyme's odious spouse - who knows? I don't recall what happened - the attempt was highly publicized but the result was not. Presumably the attempt failed.

69 posted on 12/14/2002 5:14:01 PM PST by Bedford Forrest
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To: cardinal4
There have been some rather.. entreprenurial sorts in the KGB since the 'fall of the party'.
70 posted on 12/14/2002 5:17:04 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: mikegi
Gotta be!

I mean, ski in France! No way Jose,


Hoo-ha-ha
71 posted on 12/14/2002 5:19:33 PM PST by ASOC
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To: enfield
Could be the rocket shot at the El Al plane the other day have failed to target due to this very thing.

This failed because it was a really bad and primitive SAM being used outside its optimal envelope. This particular failure is plausible even they had perfectly functional weapons if you look at the limitations and poor performance of that system. Hell, it was 1960's Russian technology, and only marginally effective even back then when it was new.

72 posted on 12/14/2002 5:26:08 PM PST by tortoise
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To: freepersup
Here's the picture of the Russian backpack nuke.

Not your average backpack...


73 posted on 12/14/2002 5:30:49 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: mewzilla
Wonder if this is the reason the President looked like heck when he made his smallpox announcement?

From what Barbara Walters said on 20/20 last night, he was just getting the really bad cold on Friday that Laura had on Tues or Wed when that program was taped.

74 posted on 12/14/2002 5:31:11 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: big ern
The only thing OBL bought was the farm.
75 posted on 12/14/2002 5:31:27 PM PST by Bars4Bill
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To: big ern
It's not all that unlikely that al Qaeda could have bought the nukes some time before 9/11. Bin Ladin had a ton of money, Russia was in meltdown, and the Soviet Mafia would have been willing to deal.

If they have them, why haven't they used them? The optimal moment was months ago, IMHO. One possibility already mentioned is that they could have been buried under rubble in a bunker in Afghanistan by American bombing. Another is that they might have deteriorated so they are unusable.

If they've deteriorated, I would be worried, because there are scientists--Russian or otherwise--who might help service these nukes for a really generous fee. The U.S. has tried to keep Russian nuclear and germ-warfare scientists busy to avoid that kind of temptation, but with help from his Saudi friends al Qaeda could offer a very generous bribe for the technical help they need.
76 posted on 12/14/2002 5:32:41 PM PST by Cicero
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To: Southack
Thanks for your input. Your scenario would be lotsa fun to watch!! I hope those Russians have on-board video cams running to see the shocked looks on the bad guys' faces!

g

77 posted on 12/14/2002 5:34:21 PM PST by Geezerette
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To: big ern
If it's printed in a newspaper, it must be true. Right.

The only proof that Al Qaeda doesn't have nuclear weapons is that a nuclear detonation hasn't occurred at this time. On the other hand, if you were dealing in nuclear arms, would you call a press conference? This week, Bush extended the massive retaliation doctrine to terrorism. If the U.S. or an ally is hit, we're prepared to obliterate the countries responsible.
78 posted on 12/14/2002 5:37:15 PM PST by Man of the Right
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To: big ern
Debka
79 posted on 12/14/2002 5:37:52 PM PST by SwankyC
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To: Southack; Squantos
Who told you that?

We are not discussing hydrogen bombs, but simple fission devices.

80 posted on 12/14/2002 5:38:35 PM PST by Travis McGee
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