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Mall boots kiosk selling Confederate flag clothing
TuscaloosaNews ^ | December 13, 2002 | AP

Posted on 12/13/2002 4:04:26 PM PST by stainlessbanner

The manager of a Mobile mall has evicted a merchant selling clothing with Confederate battle flag designs, citing complaints from people angered by the merchandise.

The merchant, Camo Unlimited, opened a kiosk in Colonial Mall Bel Air just after Thanksgiving. The Blountsville-based company sells Dixie Outfitters clothing at the Mobile mall and at other malls throughout the Southeast, owner Toby Smith said.

Dixie Outfitters offers more than 600 designs with themes such as hunting, trucks and dogs, all including the stars and bars of the Confederate battle flag. The clothing line's "Legends of the Confederacy" series features generals and other leaders of the Confederacy.

Smith said that soon after he opened the kiosk, employees of another store at the mall complained. Soon afterward, the mall's management told him to clear out by Sunday.

Tim Nolan, the mall's general manager, said he heard from several people who indicated the store could spur a boycott of the mall.

"May I remind you that blacks and other minorities constitute a major portion of consumers who patronize Colonial Bel Air Mall," chapter president Lettie Malone wrote in a Dec. 5 letter to Nolan.

"They should not be embarrassed or made to feel uncomfortable by those who are still fighting and trying to revive a war that never should have been a part of our civilized society."

The state president of the NAACP, the Rev. R.L. Shanklin, said the group never had plans for a boycott, and that he would have to approve any boycott carried out by the organization.

Nevertheless, Nolan said the mall was in an "emotionally charged controversy that we didn't want to be in the middle of."

"There was going to be no easy decision," he told the Mobile Register. "Certainly customers are disappointed that we took them out. Customers would have been disappointed had we left them in."

Asked whether he thought his clothing was offensive, Dixie Outfitters owner Dewey Barber said, "We certainly don't put any designs out there that we feel are offensive to anyone."

Dixie Outfitters' Web site has links and news stories about the Battle Flag, and in a section called "Our Mission" it states:

"The truth about the Confederate Flag is that it has nothing to do with racism or hate. The Civil War was not fought over slavery or racism. We at Dixie Outfitters are trying to tell the real truth via our art and products in regards to the Confederate Flag."

Ben George, head of a local Sons of Confederate Veterans camp, said he was considering a protest against the eviction.


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KEYWORDS: confederateflag; dixie; dixielist; dixieoutfitters; heritage; honor; kiosk; mall; shirts; south
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To: stainlessbanner
The irony in this case is that all the mall shops in my town carry porno tapes, DVDs, foul-mouthed music, obscene gifts, etc. Shootfire, the prices of stuff in the mall just might be the most offensive thing of all! But, Dixie Outfitters' shirts are hardly the most offensive product in the mall.

The white, Christian, middle-class may be offended by some of the stuff -- but mostly not offended enough to shop elsewhere. And almost certainly not offended enough to make the offending store burn to the ground (unlike certain other groups that have an easier time getting their way in such situations).

The reality on the ground is that extortion works, but only to the extent that there is a real threat behind it.

81 posted on 12/14/2002 8:39:33 AM PST by SauronOfMordor
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To: SauronOfMordor
I would be surprised if the mall's rental agreement did not have a clause which basicly gives mall management the discretion to bar the sale or display of items which (in the sole and arbitrary judgement of mall management) was disturbing or annoying to mall customers, or which generated excessive complaints.

I'm sure it does. All contracts have vague general clauses that are used to try to get away with as much as you have the nerve to try to get away with.

However, if such a clause were ever enforced in regards to a Mall owner banning the sale of Malcolm X T-shirts at a black store because white Mall customers found the merchandise "offensive", the legal night soil would hit the fan.

83 posted on 12/14/2002 8:41:35 AM PST by Polybius
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To: Amelia
You really do hate southerners, don't you?

Where did I mention southerners?

We have rednecks here in Indiana. Not just in southern Indiana.

84 posted on 12/14/2002 8:51:22 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: mac_truck; varina davis
Was Ft Sumter part of the US when it was fired on by the confederates?

In 1861, that was a legal question whose answer depended on which side you asked.

The United States answer was, "Yes. Fort Sumter is U.S. soil. Our troops are defending U.S. property."

The South Carolina answer was, "No. Fort Sumter is sovereign South Carolinian soil just as Castle Pinckney, which we occupied on December 27, 1860, is sovereign South Carolinian soil. Foreign troops are trespassing on South Carolina property and are in a position to threaten shipping entering Charleston Harbor."

85 posted on 12/14/2002 9:16:07 AM PST by Polybius
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To: stainlessbanner
F.U.B.U. I'M OFFENDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
86 posted on 12/14/2002 9:18:57 AM PST by chasio649
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To: The Obstinate Insomniac
OBVIOUSLY he HAD/HAS such an agreement!

were it my place of business, i'd sue the mall owner for everything he has.it's called paying for a lease to do business, which is a contract. you cannot get out of a lease just because someone complains about what is being sold on the premises.

free dixie,sw

87 posted on 12/14/2002 9:29:53 AM PST by stand watie
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To: mc5cents
Phonetically, "Kay Soze" is spanish for cheese dip. This makes sense with a dip posting cheese.
88 posted on 12/14/2002 9:30:49 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Polybius
EXACTLY!

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89 posted on 12/14/2002 9:30:58 AM PST by stand watie
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To: Karsus
the naaLcp has "a talent" for racism,racebaiting,lying,breaching written agreements & being "two-faced".

i'm NOW ashamed that i was once a dues-paying member.

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90 posted on 12/14/2002 9:33:25 AM PST by stand watie
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To: stand watie
We would have to see the agreement. Most breach of contract actions only permit actual damages and with limitations, liquidated damages.

I have a right to enter into contract with you. I have the equal right to breach such contract. I have to pay damages: What the breach actually cost or would of cost you. Provided you make a good faith effort to cover and limit your own damages.
91 posted on 12/14/2002 9:35:57 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: varina davis
mostly in the "oh, so sensitive & PC" "PUBIC"universities & the poisonivy-covered walls of the damnyankee schools!

which is indoctrination, rather than education.PROPAGANDA is their business.

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92 posted on 12/14/2002 9:36:20 AM PST by stand watie
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To: varina davis
VERY TRUE!

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93 posted on 12/14/2002 9:36:58 AM PST by stand watie
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To: Capriole
RUFFIN has much better quality flags!

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94 posted on 12/14/2002 9:39:03 AM PST by stand watie
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To: Bluntpoint
gars??????

must be a damnyankee thing. i've never heard that down south.

free dixie,sw

95 posted on 12/14/2002 9:42:33 AM PST by stand watie
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To: stainlessbanner
Why are people attacking symbols? What good is that?

I was born in Michigan and always had a "Union" mentality. Within the last year I found out that two great-great uncles of mine died under confederate command at Vicksburg. In fact, U. S. Grant told later that the men in the regiment my two uncles were in, were in his opinion the bravest soldiers he had ever witnessed during the entire war.

And today we are being forced to make the Confederate flag a point of derision.

96 posted on 12/14/2002 9:43:19 AM PST by Slyfox
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To: Amelia
YEP he does. it's called being a DAMNYANKEE!

being northernborn makes you a damnyankee in precisely the same way it makes you a plumber. damnyankees are made rather than born. they are HATERS & BIGOTS, every one!

free dixie,sw

97 posted on 12/14/2002 9:47:36 AM PST by stand watie
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To: chasio649
every time i SEE one of those shirts i LOL!

ask any vietnam era veteran what FUBU is an abbreviation for.

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98 posted on 12/14/2002 9:50:18 AM PST by stand watie
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To: stand watie
Point to where I slandered the south.

You really do not like Middle western, South eastern Hoosiers who live in on farms and drives trucks, do you?
99 posted on 12/14/2002 9:53:32 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Bluntpoint
if i were the kiosk operator, i'd make the case that MY RIGHTS to free speech were being violated by the mall owner & that he/she "had the intent to deprive me of a legitimate living"-i'm sure a southron jury would bring back SUSBSTANTIAL damages.

i suspect, but do not know that you are a member of the bar.

free dixie,sw

100 posted on 12/14/2002 9:54:26 AM PST by stand watie
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