I can understand the intitial desire to defend the context of what Lott said. I fully comprehend the position taken. However...
[IMHO] Trent Lott is on the outs. The President completely slammed the door shut on this thing earlier today but now you still have guys like Hannity trying to defend the context of Lott's remarks and introducing the Clintons, and Jackson so on and so forth.
Hannity needs to walk away from this. We all understand what is happening here. We all understand what the Liberals are doing.
With that said...
None of this would be happening if Lott hadnt said what he said. He is developing a track record for comments that "have to be taken in their context" that coincidentally happen to offend Blacks.
Lott needs to go and Hannity needs to let him go.
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12/12/2002 1:53:42 PM PST by
VaBthang4
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To: VaBthang4
I would prefer it if Sean Hannity was a liberal anyway. Hannity is a knee-jerk conservative. I don't think there is anything cerebral about his views. Sure he may be hot with the rhetoric, but he is slow witted and oversimplifies most issues. He is simply blindly defending Lott because he is a Republican and not recognizing what Lott did was out of line. The best thing for Republicans to do is to get Lott to resign as leader in the Senate. This will steal any issue the Democrats have. Yes the Democrats are utter hippocrits on this issue, but Lott needs to go because he has proven that he is not a good leader for his party and his president.
To: VaBthang4
This is a golden opportunity to get rid of Chester and replace him with Bill Frist, an actual leader. Let's not blow it by wasting time and energy defending an ineffective idiot like Lott.
SEAN SMELL THE COFFEE
DUMP LOTT NOW!
To: VaBthang4
Do you not count it as offensive when absolutely no African-Americans at all vote for any Republicans in vast areas of the country?
Look, everybody has known since time began, if you want respect, you have to earn it, and when it comes to politicians and voters, politicians respect voters. People who don't vote for them don't necessarily get respect.
Personally I don't care what African-Americans think about a guy they don't vote for - he already knows what they think. As far as being offended, it's been the Republicans, not the African-Americans, who have been accused of starving babies, taking medicine away from old people, and forcing raped women to bear unwanted babies. Oh, yes, must add, it's been the African-American DEMOCRATS making such accusations along with their running dog "white liberal guilt" lackies in the media.
To: VaBthang4
Lott should switch to the Democratic party.
To: VaBthang4
Funny...nobody's trying to oust Thurman for actually BEING the Segregationist presidential candidate, as contrasted with Lott simply giving the guy a vague compliment on his birthday.
To: VaBthang4
Liberals and "conservatives"????? Whose characterization is that????
137 posted on
12/12/2002 4:42:45 PM PST by
cynicom
To: dwilli; VaBthang4; SunStar; Peach
I, for one, am getting a little tired of Hannity's moralizing and self-righteousness. He's even more annoying than that hypocrite Bill Bennett. Sometimes I wish Hannity would just shut the heck up! I particularly didn't like the way he bullied Sela Ward into telling him what her views on "moral issues" were. She should've told him to take a flying leap!
He's nothing but a shill for the Republican Party and misrepresents the facts. He tried to stand the Enron mess on its head by saying that Lieberman once headed a group that took something like $200,000 from Enron, Citibank, and some other corporations. What he left out was that Enron only gave like $2,000.
Now Hannity is trying to compare Clinton's praise for Fulbright with Lott's praise for Thurmond. What he conveniently leaves out is that Fulbright is mostly known for the Fulbright Scholarship. By contrast, Thurmond known only for having run an insurgent presidential campaign based on one issue and one issue only: segregation. Hannity knows this, but he's such a shill that he'll never admit it.
To: VaBthang4
Quit getting so excited about nothing. Watch how this plays out, the RATS are sticking their foots in their mouths and there is a big picture here that I will not mention that is also playing out quite nicely.
To: VaBthang4
Hannity is the only person who ain't Chickenning out on the issue. Bush on the otherhand, has been taking lessons from Putin, using the enemys momentum (i.e. dems) to collapse on their own crapulance. Bravo Bushie.
To: VaBthang4
I don't get it. Democrats who have a KKK senator in their ranks call Lott a bigot and we should all just roll over? What exactly are we allowed to say by the leftist news media and their party,the democrats?? Their allies are allowed to be homegrown terrorists like bedsheet-wearing Robert Byrd and racists like Jessie 'Hymie Town' Jackson, just to name a few. So Lott tries to say something nice to a hundred year old friend and he should be drug out of the senate and lynched by the leftist news media and their brownshirt allies in the democratic party and you agree with that???
To: VaBthang4
I think we need term limits. It would put an end to this kind of crap.
To: VaBthang4
For the first time in my life I think Lott ought to stay. You can't let the insipid, morally bankrupt left drum our leaders out on a pretext. Lott is guilty of stupidity or not studying his speech of something, not racism. If Lott really meant to endorse 1948 style segregation, he is crazier than a loon. His other actions don't betray this. The Repubs ought to entertain a bid by Sen. Nickles and have a regular vote to see who who our next majority leader should be not drum Lott out on some Soviet style secret meeting.
To: VaBthang4
He is developing a track record for comments that "have to be taken in their context" that coincidentally happen to offend Blacks.Everything spoken by Republicans offends blacks--at least liberal blacks (which is most of them). Liberal blacks are well-practiced at being easily offended. It's what they do best. Their white democrat overlords have trained them well.
To: VaBthang4
Agree with your initial post. Lott is a Redneck Republican, out of synch with the majority of Republicans.
His mouth runneth over. He is a weak leader. He should step down from the leadership(not resign) and let someone with some smarts and statesmanship take over the helm.
Lott has made himself a liability. He is the stereotypical Mississippi bigot, and the Republicans don't need his kind around.
BTW, I was so glad to see Thurmond GONE--FINALLY! We don't need anymore of these living corpses dragging the party down.
Lott is a throwback to the segregationist era We don't need his kind either.
To: VaBthang4
..... you still have guys like Hannity trying to defend the context of Lott's remarks and introducing the Clintons, and Jackson so on and so forth. ....
Each time Hannity whines about it not being fair because other folks have slipped off the hook for past stupidity or crime he (Hannity) shows his own lack of principle and his shallowness. Moral equivalence is an argument used only by dishonest or dumb folks.
Lott should be removed from his leadership role because he is not fit to lead ..... not only for the stupidity of his recent statements but for his mistakes and failures such as, the impeachment, the power sharing agreement and his reluctance to promptly act on the Homeland security bill until the President had to set him straight.
If the folks in Lott's home state keep electing him thats their business, but that does not mean that the Republicans owe him a leadership position. We must be consistent in our requirement for integrity and demand it from our own just as surely as we demandit from the Dems.
IMO, we also ought to be looking for folks with who are not suffering from brain damage caused by too much toupee glue and hair spray.
Regards
To: VaBthang4
I agree to an extent.
Look, he said what he said, and he alone, not hte party should pay the price.
It can only be called sheer idiocy to not be extraordinarily sensitive to making obscenely idiotic remarks that can and will be blown into a racial context, when we are finally making progress after years of fighting an opponent that lives by the Race Card
But in the end Lotts comments make him look loike he doesn't get it ala MR Magoo, not David Duke (or Sen.Fulbright, Or Sen. Byrd, or Sen Al Gore Sr.)
251 posted on
12/13/2002 10:46:13 AM PST by
hobbes1
To: VaBthang4
Sean has painted himself into a corner, and IMHO he is too proud to admit he's wrong.
His credibility on this has cratered. He ignores the racial dimension of this, and poo-poos it like it doesn't exist. He is not addressing the issue, but defending Lott tooth and nail.
The interview I saw had Sean "leading the witness" as it were..."Don't you think people should be more forgiving?" etc. He was nodding his head, prodding and poking till Lott gave all the pat answers. For a minute I thought I was watching a female Katie Couric. Not objective at all.
COME ON SEAN! You are losing on this one.
To: VaBthang4
It bothers me when I hear conservatives and liberals calling for Lott's resignation. What Lott said has been distorted and blown way out of proportion. This is just another play from the democrats playbook. After they get Lott they will be looking for the next republican to destroy with their politics of personal destruction. And the destruction will go on and on and on!
There is a silver lining in this storm cloud. This is an excellent opportunity for the republican party to show black folks what hypocrits the democrats are. So I would like to see Lott remain the leader in the senate for 2003.
To: VaBthang4
None of this would be happening if Lott hadnt said what he said. I totally agree with what you're saying. And I blame Lott even more since he is in such a visible position in the GOP. He should know to be tactful. He goofed ... he was wrong and (for the good of the party) he should just GO!!!
To: VaBthang4
Lott is going to grease the wheels for Bush's policy agenda in January.
This is why enemies of conservatism are out to get him.
We are about to make great strides in 2003.
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