Posted on 12/10/2002 11:21:41 AM PST by Liz
Like whist, whilst, and self-abuse, the word sodomy has an old-fashioned ring to it. You don't even see it alluded to much anymore, except in punning tabloid headlines about the situation in Iraq. But itor its kissin' cousin, the nearly as archaic-sounding "deviate sexual intercourse"can be found in the criminal codes of thirteen states of the Union, where it is punishable by penalties ranging from a parking-ticket-size fine to (theoretically) ten years in prison.
Even at this late date, many people are vague about just exactly what sodomy is. Montesquieu defined it as "the crime against nature," which is not especially helpful. Blackstone called it "the infamous crime against nature, committed either with man or beast," which gets us a little further, but not much. Back in the U.S.A., the statute books tend to be franker. Some states bring animals into the picture, some don't. The Texas Legislature's definition is nonzoological.
SKIP THIS IF EXPLICIT LANGUAGE OFFENDS. According to Section 21.01 of the Texas Penal Code (readers of delicate sensibilities may at this point wish to skip down a few lines), " 'Deviate sexual intercourse' means: (A) any contact between any part of the genitals of one person and the mouth or anus of another person; or (B) the penetration of the genitals or the anus of another person with an object."
RESUME READING HERE What the Lone Star State does and does not view as some kinda deviated preversion became of national interest last week, when the United States Supreme Court agreed to consider Lawrence v. Texas. The Lawrence of the case is John G. Lawrence, fifty-nine years old, of Houston, who, on the evening of September 17, 1998, was in his apartment with a guest, Tyron Garner, who is thirty-five. Texas got involved when police, having been tipped off by a neighbor that a "weapons disturbance" was in progress, busted down the door. (The tip was a deliberate lie on the part of the neighbor, who was later convicted of filing a false report.)
What the officers found Lawrence and Garner doing is really none of our business, any more than it was any of Texas's; suffice it to say that it was consensual, nonviolent, and noise-free. The two men were arrested, jailed overnight, and eventually fined two hundred dollars each. They appealed, a three-judge panel of a district appeals court reversed their conviction, the full nine-judge appeals court reversed the reversal, and the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals declined to do any more reversing. And so to Washington.
The statute under which Lawrence and Garner were convicted, Section 21.06 of the Texas Penal Code, is officially known as the Homosexual Conduct Law. Ironically, this statute was a product of the progressive mood of the early nineteen-seventies. In most of the states that still criminalize sodomy, it doesn't matter, legally, whether a couple engaging in behavior (A), above, consists of two men, two women, or one of each.
That's how it was in Texas, too, until 1974. In that bell-bottomed year, the Texas Legislature made heterosexual sodomy legal, but it couldn't quite bring itself to do the same for gays. The result is that Texas is now one of only four states (the others being Kansas, Missouri, and Oklahoma) where it is a crime for gays to please each other in ways that are perfectly legal for straights. The panel that overturned the conviction saw this as discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.
The full state court disagreed. Rather, confirming what Anatole France called "the majestic egalitarianism of the law, which forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges," the court pointed out that in Texas homosexuality is illegal for heterosexuals and homosexuals alike. No discrimination there.
According to the Times's Linda Greenhouse, the Supreme Court probably wouldn't have taken the case unless a majority had already decided to "revisit" Bowers v. Hardwick (1986), which upheld the constitutionality of Georgia's sodomy law.
The decision in that caseby a vote of five to four, as with so many of the Court's clunkerswas an embarrassment. Both its language and its reasoning were shockingly coarse. Writing for the majority, Justice Byron White defined "the issue"leeringly, sarcastically, obtusely, and repeatedlyas "whether the Federal Constitution confers a fundamental right upon homosexuals to engage in sodomy," or protects "a fundamental right to engage in homosexual sodomy," or extends "a fundamental right to homosexuals to engage in acts of consensual sodomy." Any such claim, he added, "is, at best, facetious."
Caricaturing the well-established constitutional right to privacy in this nyah-nyah way is like dismissing the First Amendment as being all about the right to make doo-doo jokes. It was left to the author of the dissenting opinion, Justice Harry Blackmun, to point out, quoting Justice Brandeis, that the case was really "about 'the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men,' namely 'the right to be let alone.' "
Justice Lewis Powell, who tipped the balance in Bowers v. Hardwick, expressed regret years later that he had voted the way he did. He's gone now. John Paul Stevens, who dissented, William Rehnquist, now Chief Justice, and Sandra Day O'Connor are the only holdovers from the Court that upheld Georgia's sodomy law (which, by the way, was thrown out, a few months after Lawrence and Garner were arrested in Houston, by Georgia's supreme court, for violating Georgia's constitution).
Half the states that had sodomy laws when Bowers was decided have got rid of them, and those that still have them seldom enforce them. But when they are enforced the consequences can be more onerous than it may appear. Lawrence and Garner aren't just out four hundred bucks; they may also be banned from certain professions, from nursing to school-bus driving, and are deprived of other privileges denied to persons who have been convicted of "crimes of moral turpitude."
Anyway, sodomy laws are a standing insult to, among others, millions of respectable citizens who happen to be gay. They are an absurd anachronism and an obvious violation of the right to privacy. Whatever they may have represented in Montesquieu's day, or even Byron White's, in 2002 they are nothing but an expression of bigotry. If the Supreme Court takes a truly honest look at Section 21.06 of the Texas Penal Code, it will surely agree with the view of Dickens's Mr. Bumble: this is one case where, at bottom, "the law is a ass."
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Well, I agree that it's none of MY business. However, the author may want to revisit his criteria for offense; one might argue that a couple of guys running a meth lab are engaging in activity that is consensual, nonviolent, and noise-free.
I don't think you are going to get your wish on this court decision.
4 are going to vote to uphold the law (Renquist, Scalia, Thomas, and O'Conner.) 4 Are going to vote to reverse the law (Ginsburg, Stephens, Breyer and Souter.)
Kennedy will decide the balance.
When the chips are down Kennedy usually does the right thing.
I am glad to see the libertarians side with the Ultra-Left side of the court. The Judicial Activists.
I thought libertarians were for a small centeral government? What happened to that rhetoric.
You idiots only show yourselves for what you are, Pro-Immorality 60's radicals.
Our Nation's laws were not made by pot-heads from the 60's. Our nations had pure roots. The Consitution was never ment to confer a right to sodomy. I thought Libertarians supported the Constitution? Yeah right.
I think it is the wrong path to take to say the constitution protects any and all immorality.
If these things are truly kept "in the bedroom" then who is going to know? This is about endorsing it, embracing it, accepting it, and flaunting it. There is nothing "private" in that.
That said, if the gay crusade would stop there and leave kids out of the issue I could live with it. But as soon as sodomy becomes a constitutional right so will gay marriage, gay adoption, etc....and reading from or teaching the Bible will be a hate crime.
"But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh... if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law." -Galatians 5:16,18
I have seen libertarians on this very forum call for an end to age restrictions. I can guarentee that if the court votes pro-sodomite, the things you stated will be next.
When you lose morality, the only place to go is further to the bottom. You will have groups claiming the right to marry relatives, have sex in groups in public, walk nude down the street, prostitution, and have sex with kids.
You have have NAMBLA types in the schools, you will have immorality run rapid.
Thomas Jefferson said: "Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."
I go a step further than Jefferson. I am to the point where I say: "I rejoice when I reflect that God is just, and that His Justice cannot sleep forever."
"The LORD will judge His people." It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
We also are told not to be judge of fellow man.
"Let any amongst you who are without sin cast the first stone."
Looks like it's just you and me, RAT. Everyone else wants to either bring God or Richard Simmons into battle on this one.
Law exists to protect man and preserve morality. All laws endorse a form of morality.
"Man, considered as a creature, must necessarily be subject to the laws of his Creator, for he is entirely a dependent being....And, consequently, as man depends absolutely upon his Maker for everything, it is necessary that he should in all points conform to his Maker's will...this will of his Maker is called the law of nature. These laws laid down by God are the eternal immutable laws of good and evil...This law of nature dictated by God himself, is of course superior in obligation to any other. It is binding over all the globe, in all countries, and at all times: no human laws are of any validity if contrary to this... Sir William Blackstone
You should try your hand at a stand-up routine somewhere.
Pure roots? As pure as what, pray tell?
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