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"Buyer's Remorse" in South Dakota: Some Republicans who voted for Tim Johnson now wish they hadn't.
National Review Online ^ | December 10, 2002 | Byron York

Posted on 12/10/2002 9:00:22 AM PST by xsysmgr

A new poll, privately conducted for Republicans in South Dakota, suggests that some GOP voters who crossed party lines to vote for Democratic Sen. Tim Johnson are now feeling "buyer's remorse."

Johnson defeated Republican challenger John Thune by 524 votes. During the campaign, Democrats appealed to GOP and independent voters by arguing that a vote for Johnson would be a vote to keep Sen. Tom Daschle as Senate Majority Leader, which would mean more clout for South Dakota in the Senate.

In the end, of course, Democrats lost the Senate and Daschle is set to become Minority Leader.

After the election, pollsters retained by the GOP contacted 500 randomly selected people who had voted in the Senate race. The pollsters found that 17 percent of Republicans and independents said they voted for Johnson. To those people, the pollsters asked, "At the time, the Johnson campaign was saying that a vote for Tim Johnson was a vote to keep Tom Daschle as majority leader in the Senate. Thinking back, how important was the issue of keeping Tom Daschle as majority leader to you — was it very, somewhat, not very, or not at all important?"

Thirty-one percent of the Republicans and independents surveyed said it was a very important factor in their decision to vote for Johnson, and 37 percent said it was somewhat important.

Then the pollsters asked: "If you had known that because of what happened in other states that the Democrats would lose control of the Senate and Tom Daschle would no longer be majority leader, would you have still voted for Tim Johnson, or would you have voted for John Thune?"

The results are another indication of just how close the election was. Ninety-five percent of those surveyed said they still would have voted for Johnson. But five percent said they would have voted for Thune had they known Daschle would no longer be Majority Leader. That would be well over 1,500 voters — more than enough to make Thune the winner on Election Day.

Meanwhile, investigators in the South Dakota attorney general's office are looking into allegations of voting irregularities in last month's election. Several of those allegations are discussed in a new National Review cover story based on the testimony of dozens of Republican poll workers who say they witnessed Democrats engaged in improper and possibly illegal activities at several precincts across the state.

A source in the attorney general's office says many of the allegations — including charges that Democratic poll watchers ran get-out-the-vote operations out of polling places, aggressively coached voters, and engaged in illegal electioneering — are very difficult to prosecute. "First of all," the source says, "they are low-level misdemeanors, assuming they can be proven. And second, they are fairly far down the ladder in terms of whether or not the conduct can be converted into some indication that the returns at the ballot box would be changed."

Investigators are more interested in three affidavits, also discussed in National Review, from people who say Democratic get-out-the-vote van drivers offered them $10 to vote. "Those are, of course, serious allegations," the source says.

Finally, it appears that an indictment will come this week against Becky Red Earth Villeda, the Democratic activist who is suspected of trying to falsify hundreds of absentee ballot applications. In recent weeks, state officials have said they discovered 15 phony ballot requests associated with Villeda and are still investigating 1,700 others. "She was found to be in possession of several hundred absentee ballot applications," a source says. "They had been filled out, with people's names and addresses on them."



TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: timjohnson
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To: crystalk
Was it a Democrat that said "the only good Indian is a dead Indian?"

Custer was a DemocRAT.

21 posted on 12/10/2002 9:27:54 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Impeach the Boy
the DEAD FISH Libertarians are hurting this country...they serve to help elect democrats, and are good for a laugh when one takes a look at the canidates who dye themselves blue, or have campaign photos with their pet ferretts.

How do Libertarians help Democrats win if their votes aren't significant enough to begin with according to boot-licking Republican party lovers?

22 posted on 12/10/2002 9:31:12 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: xsysmgr
...Republicans who voted for Tim Johnson now wish they hadn't.

Yep... me too.


23 posted on 12/10/2002 9:33:26 AM PST by TheGrimReaper
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
REAL republicans (you, know the boot licking fools who are not as bright and enlightened as those who vote for folks who dye themselves blue and want to legalize drugs) understand that if you don't control House or Senate, you ain't gonna change anything. So those boot licking statist slave mental midgets just keep voting for a party that has a chance to acutally hold power, and thus have effect in the real world. But, then there are those REALLY sharp, non-statist THINKING folk patriots who vote for the Libertarians in close races, and thus hand the election to socialist democrats ( a real winning plan if I have ever seen one).
24 posted on 12/10/2002 9:42:38 AM PST by Moby Grape
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To: xsysmgr
To the 95% I say, "Switch parties NOW! You are Democrat! Be honest...or at least be a Democrat in name while you are being a Democrat in action! Once you become a Democrat, nobody will care about your dishonesty!"

To the 5% I say, "You sniveling idiots! You reap what you sow! You intended to influence national politics by such puny, selfish motives...and your puny selfishness has left your state behind in a backwater as the nation moves forward under Republican leadership!"

To that Republican leadership I say, "Get off your duffs and LEAD DAMMIT!!!!"
25 posted on 12/10/2002 9:43:51 AM PST by GilesB
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To: Charlie OK
"too late now ..."

Actually, when it comes to seating the candidate who got the most legal votes, it is never too late. Even if the candidate does not want to contest the results of the election, it is in the interest of the State that elections are by-and-large honest. If law eneforcement (local, state, or federal) provides enough evidence of fraud in the South Dakota senatorial election, the U.S. Senate can remove the illicit senator and replace him with the rightful senator. The U.S. Senate has the FINAL say on its own membership ... not any court (it's in the Constitution).

Now, you may ask, "what is the chance of this happening?" The chances are not good, unless there is credible evidence of significant fraud. Thousands of fraudulent absentee ballots, if it is shown those ballots were cast, may do it. A statitical sampling (a method used unsuccessfully by Robert Dornan (R-CA) and Algore (D-AHole) probably won't do the trick.

26 posted on 12/10/2002 10:00:06 AM PST by capitan_refugio
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To: GilesB
You might as well join up with you neighbors to the north, because you are now just as irrelvant.(I don't mean NORTH Dakota)

Sing it now! OOOHHH Caaaannnaaddaaaa, OHHH....
27 posted on 12/10/2002 10:00:14 AM PST by chiller
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To: xsysmgr
It is a little late now.
28 posted on 12/10/2002 10:21:13 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants
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To: xsysmgr
I'm sorry that the rest of us have to suffer for the stupidity of these few. Nevertheless, we have to look at the aptness of calling these people Republicans or; allowing them to call themselves Republicans. When push came to shove these people were shown to not be Republicans.
Calling them Republicans is like crying about those nitwit libertarians not voting for our candidates. They are rat voting enemies and so are those greedy farmers in South Dakota. Yes, I said greedy farmers. I live in a city. I don't care where my food comes from. In every other instance of progress bumping status quo, we hear the same shiite. "We have to save the family farm!" Why? Did we save the family buther shop or family hardware store or family blacksmith shop? When will these people realize that family farms are a thing of the past. They can't keep putting out their hands and crying about how noble they are, what self reliant small businessmen they are, and; still call themselves Republicans. I don't know what they are but; they certainly aren't Republicans. Let the big companies grow the food guys. Sell the land and get your hands out of my pocket - there are too many people doing that already.
29 posted on 12/10/2002 10:26:21 AM PST by jmaroneps37
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To: chiller
OOOHHH Caaaannnaaddaaaa . . .
Our home and native land
True patriot love
In all our hearts command

With glowing pride
We see thee rise
The true north strong and free

From far and wide, O Canada,
We stand on guard for thee!

God keep our land glorious and free
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee!

Shout out to our Neighbors to the North.
30 posted on 12/10/2002 11:11:33 AM PST by JohnnyZ
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