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It appears that there is a lot of information on this subject. While I dont intend to become another Willie Green, I think this is an important topic. I am glad that more and more people are starting to pay attention to what is happening out there.
1 posted on 12/09/2002 7:27:06 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: BuddhaBoy
Rights apply to all people, not just some people. Laws on this subject are just as stupid and illegitimate as most other laws.
2 posted on 12/09/2002 7:33:02 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: BuddhaBoy; US-CAPF Director; RogerFGay
Here's a website that one deceived dad fairly recently launched:

http://www.paternityfraud.com

His appeal wasn't granted certiorari by the U.S. Supreme Court, but with a Republican Congress maybe a just outcome can result.
3 posted on 12/09/2002 7:33:47 AM PST by End The Hypocrisy
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The dems will fight this with every breath in their corrupt bodies.

Clearly, there can be no fraud because it was the evil male who used deception to get in the innocent and naive female's knickers in the first place.

Secondly, DNA evidence is to be used only in opposition to the death penalty to prove the innocence of blacks on death row. Any other use is dicey.

Next, we simply can't be in the business of questioning "single moms" (God bless 'em) in their difficult times about the paternity of any of their children. What they say must be fact because they are, well, single moms.

Finally, this is exactly why the evil Republicans should not have been allowed to appoint judges will allow the use of DNA evidence to disprove paternity. Dems know that it is OK to go back 20 years to use DNA to prove that an imprisoned black man didn't comit a crime and release him from prison but it is not OK to use the same kind of evidence to prove that an error was made in ascribing paternity to a given male.

5 posted on 12/09/2002 7:50:40 AM PST by Tacis
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I agree that men tricked into believing they were bio-fathers of children shouldn't have to pay child support. They should be able to terminate their status as legal parent to the child, and the mother and bio-father should be solely responsible.

But, while the Michigan bill mentioned in the article would rightfully exempt the man from making child support payments, it would allow him to continue with visitation rights: http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/regional/index.ssf?/stories/news/20020916paternity_laws.html
I can understand the thinking behind that idea, but, if the man doesn't want to be the legal father, he is terminating his rights to the child. If he wants to be the legal father, he should have to pay some support (perhaps a reduction in payments, but you cannot enjoy parental rights without some responsibility for the child).

8 posted on 12/09/2002 8:37:38 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
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This is a very important topic, and not one with easy answers. I speak from the perspective of a former Family Court Judge who has dealt with these issues many times. It seems to me that a number of folks here are falling into the liberal trap of identifying children as burdens or commodities, chattels to be dealt with according to some form of contract law. They are not. They are human beings who are innocent of any of the wrong-doing of their parents. There is much to be said for the non-biological bond between "parent" and child, no matter how much was induced by fraud. Should the child be punished? What sort of man is it who turns his back on a child who has come to know him as dad? What SHOULD the law be? I don't know. But morally, any of us who are capable of being a parent to such a child should do so, no matter the sacrifice. That's what we are here for.
11 posted on 12/09/2002 9:06:36 AM PST by Cincinnatus
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Bills could end child support payments from men who aren't biological dads
Source:MLIVE.com; Author:The Associated Press

13 posted on 12/09/2002 9:28:13 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: BuddhaBoy
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14 posted on 12/09/2002 9:29:03 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: BuddhaBoy
I really think that some women who find themselves pregnant, simply think of some man, perhaps a neighbor, or from church, or from work, that they once spoke to, had lunch with, or [heaven help him] once had over to their place on some pretence [help them move a refrigerator, mow lawn, fix light switch etc]...

JUST SO HE HAS A JOB AND/OR MONEY,

and then say he is the father, give that on the papers when the child is born!

Are there really some men so foolish [or macho as to want to have it claimed they did this] as to go along with this and PAY?

What did Barnum say?

23 posted on 12/09/2002 11:45:34 AM PST by crystalk
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