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To: DoughtyOne
While I don't like the publicity seeking angle on this, I realize that blowing this out in the press is probably the only chance these folks have in the long run, of forcing the government to take action to stop illegal immigration.

This effort is all about publicity, & correctly so. What Simcox is obviously trying to do is bring the issue to a head in front of the entire nation. The government will be in the spotlight & the country will be watching to see how they handle it.

Let's face it, this problem isn't going to be solved by a few ranchers in SUVs. A strong wave of public anti illegal alien sentiment is the only hope.

55 posted on 12/09/2002 7:08:34 AM PST by skeeter
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To: skeeter
This effort is all about publicity, & correctly so. What Simcox is obviously trying to do is bring the issue to a head in front of the entire nation. The government will be in the spotlight & the country will be watching to see how they handle it.

Let's face it, this problem isn't going to be solved by a few ranchers in SUVs. A strong wave of public anti illegal alien sentiment is the only hope.

Good reply, thanks.
73 posted on 12/09/2002 8:31:53 AM PST by Travelgirl
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To: skeeter
"A strong wave of public anti illegal alien sentiment is the only hope."

We already have that and its growing. The problem is that from the left it will be challenged as racist and from the administration we will get something along the lines of how good illegals are for our economy (sorta like how Islam is a peaceful religion) and all sides will encourage action against any who "target" illegals. That will be followed by some "protected" status legislation, and the people will be screwed....again.

74 posted on 12/09/2002 8:34:43 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: skeeter
This effort is all about publicity, & correctly so. What Simcox is obviously trying to do is bring the issue to a head in front of the entire nation. The government will be in the spotlight & the country will be watching to see how they handle it.

True. The more I hear from Simcox, the better I feel about him and his efforts. I was especially impressed with his idea to use the government to do the background checks and screening process for his volunteer patrols (via the CCW background check). And his public announcement that he was going to patrol the very same public lands that the open borders groups have going on to place water stations and such on was classic.

The trouble is that a fear a certain scenario may come to pass. I've mentioned it here before. This guy can put a real wrench in Vincente Fox's gears. Fox must keep the flow of illegals moving northward for 3 reasons:

  1. It is a pressure valve that Mexico traditionally uses to prevent a long-delated revolution to overthrow the elites.
  2. Billions of dollars are sent back to Mexico from the illegals to their families they left behind. This money artificially keeps the Mexican economy afloat.
  3. As demonstrated by Fox's linkage of U.S. border policies to Mexico's vote on the U.N. Iraq resolution, Fox uses illegal immigration as a bludgeon to attempt to affect U.S. foreign policy.

Given these facts, and given the traditionally corrupt nature of the Mexican government, I fear that they may take action and use Simcox as their patsy. I foresee a situation where covert Mexican operatives will kill off a few of their "undesirables" in the Arizona desert and make it look like Simcox's bunch did it. Simcox would be gone, the immigration reform movement would be irrepairably damaged, and Fox would have his way. It would be ugly and it could happen.
78 posted on 12/09/2002 8:53:34 AM PST by Spiff
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To: skeeter
I'm not sure how closely you've followed the efforts in Arizona. The Barnett (Bennet?) brothers own a 22,000 acre farm on the border. They have spent $30,000 of their own money to install sensors on their property. In the last two years they have arrested 8,000 illegal immigrants on their property. They carry weapons and have sparked no incidents of violence. They turn the illegals over to the INS, who deport them.

They appeared on the Donahue program a few weeks back. They state that they see the same people over and over.

They were experiencing a high incidence of tresspassing, vandalism, burglery and basic petty criminal activity on their farm.

They estimate that about 200 people per day enter our nation over their property. If they are accurate, that's around 73,000 people per year on their property alone.

101 posted on 12/09/2002 1:26:56 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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