Louisiana Election Turnout Thread- Here come the results

C-SPAN ^ | Dec. 6, 2002 | Brian Lamme

[ewing]

Tell us how crowded/not crowded it was when you went to vote!

Did you see voter fraud and what is the talk about exit polling and the possible outcome?

[mom4kittys]

Nope, my kittys didn't vote, but my pug sure was eager to go with me!

[Theodore R.]

I saw nothing in LA newspapers on the Internet about Maxine Waters appearing in LA. It could be that LA reporters did not know who she is and did not report accordingly. It could also be that many LA blacks do not know this liberal CA congresswoman at all.

[cgbg]

It was 1, yes one, degree this morning here in New England (high elevation).

Warm me up with a victory Terrell bump!

[Theodore R.]

Yes, there is a lesser degree of rivalry of the kind that you mentioned between LSU and Tulane in TX -- between UT (Austin) and TAMU (College Station). Rick Perry is the FIRST TAMU graduate to be governor. John Sharp is also a TAMU alumnus. I don't know about Dewhurst. In a close election, football rivalries could matter to 2,000 voters.

[EDINVA]

and LSU is how many times bigger than Tulane? Also, I'd assume a higher % of LSU grads are from and stay in state. Do you know what percentage of the voters both schools' grads, collectively, represent?

[Theodore R.]

I don't know about Maravich. It is possible that he was conservative, but most of the others you listed are either liberal or Democrat, or both. Andrew Jackson was the Democrat patriarch whose liberalism took the form of autocracy and also hatred of Indians. Put that in your pipe, SD Indians!

[ewing]

Time to go vote!

[San Jacinto]

Checking in on this thread had whetted my apetite for some shrimp gumbo. I'm off to the golf course for a day of Texas December golf, but before I leave I will place my request with She Who Must Be Obeyed Or At Least Cajoled, that I be greeted about 6:00 o'clock P.M. with a big ole steaming bowl of shrimp gumbo over rice. I will then pop a top on a cold one, rip off a chunk of French bread, and check this very thread (which will have hundreds of replies by then).

I imagine by about 8:30 or 9:00 it will be damn near official -- Landrieu out on her a$$.

[ewing]

[Liz]

BTW, did you see any used pizza boxes from Chicage with ballots spilling out of 'em?

This would be an indication that the Illinois vote-manufacturing form of Daley and Sons, the nation's oldest and largest manufacturer of Democrat votes, was speed-dialed by the desperate Landrieu people late last night.

How do the Daley's do it you might ask? They are so adept at their business that they actually manufacture votes out of thin air through a secret, patented process.

[kms61]

I don't have the stats at hand, but LSU of course is much larger, and probably the majority of Tulane students come from out of state and leave the state after graduation.

But that's not really the point. The LSU-Tulane hostility goes back at least until the 1920's when there was an annual football game followed by a riot (a photograph from that era features two coeds assaulting each other with sugar cane stalks). At this point it's more of a cultural artifact. The schools don't even play each other every year any more. But the hostility carries over. There are elements of populism, public school-private school rivalry, New Orleans vs the rest of the state, and class warfare all rolled up into it.

If you don't live here none of this may make any sense. I've tried to explain it as best I can.

[Theodore R.]

The conservative parishes (incomplete listing): Jefferson, Bossier, Ouachita, Caldwell, LaSalle, Grant, Union, West Carroll, Lafayette, St. Tammany, and SOMETIMES Rapides, Lincoln, East Baton Rouge, Lafayette, Vernon, West Carroll, Iberia, St. Bernard, Plaquemines, Winn (home of the Longs), Jackson, Morehouse, Sabine, and Webster.

Staunchly Democrat: Orleans, Calcasieu, East Carroll, Madison, Tensas, Catahoula, Concordia, Avoyelles (birthplace of Edwin Washington Edwards), Natchitoches, Claiborne, (formerly Republican) Caddo, DeSoto, Bienville, West Baton Rouge, Pointe Coupee, Allen, Evangeline, Jefferson Davis, and Red River (a very small parish south of Shreveport).

Terrell does have a chance, but Orleans Parish alone can provide Landrieu with a 100,000 plurality over Terrell.

[Brices Crossroads]

The most conservative, large Parish is St. Tammany, which is the only majority Republican parish in the state and is the fastest growing in the State, just across Lake Ponchartrain from New Orleans. East Baton Rouge is pretty conservative too. And Jefferson(New Orleans suburbs) has traditionally been conservative. Jenkins beat Landrieu in Jefferson 58-42 in 1996. Suzie Terrell needs to defeat Landrieu by a similar margin in Jefferson today. It has the same population as Orleans (New Orleans)but the white-black ratio in Jefferson is about 82-18. So it has the potential to balance out Landrieu's expected big edge in Orleans (which is about 60% black). I hope this answers some of your questions at least about the Southeast part of the state.

[kms61]

Landrieu carried Winn in the primary, despite it being in Cooksey's Congressional district.

[William McKinley]

Thank you both.

[texas booster]

I understand that Edwards was given a one day "good behavior" get-out-of-jail free card today.

He can drive from Ft Worth to LA and back in one day. Because "Voting, its the right thing to do!"

[No dems 2002]

Oh Lord, help Suzie Terrell and Lee Fletcher win.

We need them.

[kms61]

Actually, there's no love lost between Edwards and Landrieu. When she was treasurer, she put the kibosh on a sweetheart bond deal that he and some of his cronies had cooked up. Among the cronies were some of the black leaders who have been rather lukewarm in support of her campaign.

If she loses today, at least a chalk at least a little of it up to payback from Edwards and his pals.

[Theodore R.]

I would think that Perkins' and Terrell's votes in the primary, along with Cooksey's, would have given the Republicans a slight edge in Winn Parish. This is a competitive parish, which is remarkable considering its diehard Long background. My wife has a relative who lives in a house once owned by none other than Earl Kemp Long! There is a very impressive monument to Earl Long in Winnfield.

[Theodore R.]

Yes, you are right! Though Mayor Moon Landrieu was an early EWE backer, Mary has not been so forgiving. In 1991, she backed the converted Republican Charles E. "Buddy" Roemer in the open primary. Treasurer Landrieu switched to fellow Democrat EWE only when David Duke became in effect the Republica candidate for governor. So did Dave Treen, the former Republican governor. He backed Roemer in the primary, then switched to his old rival in the general election, EWE, so as to thwart Duke, whom he considered a grave threat to the LA Republican Party.