Louisiana Election Turnout Thread- Here come the results

C-SPAN ^ | Dec. 6, 2002 | Brian Lamme

[ewing]

Tell us how crowded/not crowded it was when you went to vote!

Did you see voter fraud and what is the talk about exit polling and the possible outcome?

[Theodore R.]

I don't think there is anything to recount in the House race. Fletcher lost by the same margin that Thune did in SD. End of story, as the Republicans say. Now the new congressman-elect could become as popular as Breaux by 2004. LA rarely unseats any incumbents in Congress.

[marajade]

Catholics don't care that their priests molest children... they don't care about abortion either... Why would it concern them about voting for a candidate that claimed to be prolife?

[plain talk]

Well I hope the Republicans have someone better than Terrell to run for Governor. Terrell wasn't exactly an awe inspiring candidate.

[kcar]

:) If I was an LA poohboy, she'd still get my vote. But OF COURSE I'm not and my criteria is not THAT vapid, although like most guys my IQ declines by at least 100 pts whenever confronted by such a display.

Sad, I know.

[section9]

Allright, you mokes, it's a loss, so let's take it like men.

Sure, we had them down, but I suppose after this loss it's safe for the folks over at DU to start burning books again.

So what happened?

Early on, it looks like Team Bush made a bonehead error in announcing the firings yesterday. Not smart. In addition, Suzie's people didn't respond rapidly to the sugar story. Some unease about the economy was allowed to creep into the election, enough to keep Suzie from going over the top.

Plus, it looks like Donna Brazile deserves some credit for getting her people out.

Look, you can't win them all, folks. Suzie did about as well as we could have expected her to. A couple of bad hits during the week wiped out the Bush bounce and gave the election back to Landrieu.

Now then, the smart Democrat won't see this as a rejection of Bush; rather, they will look at this as an election in which Democratic turnout was okay and swing voters felt that it was okay to keep Landrieu in for another term. However, what we have to hope for is that the ideological Democrats who run the national party will immediately latch on to this as a vindication of Pelosi liberalism. That is, the national folks will say that it was the black base vote that put her over the top. This could work to our advantage, because the general thrust of this year's elections have been pro-Republican and pro-Bush. The National DNC people will want to latch onto anything that tells them that their message is okay and that they don't have to change.

Let us hope that they proceed to analyze it that way, because in 2004 the dynamic will be different.

The Iraq campaign will have come to a close and the United States will find itself in possession of the second largest oilfields in the world. This will mean reasonably high production and low fuel oil prices.

Al Qaeda will still be at large. Bin Laden is, imho, most likely dead, but we will not be certain, so we'll have to proceed as if he is alive and dancing. That will keep the population, of needs be, on alert.

The economy will have long been in recovery mode by November of 2004. Bush and Rove have adopted the permanent campaign of the Clinto people, only without the crassness that characterized the Clinton regime. The economy will be able to be used to our advantage.

Look folks, we had a chance to win this one, and we blew it. What's important is that we get some "lessons learned" under our belts and move on to the next campaign.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

[Theodore R.]

Specter was a Democrat during the administration of JFK. He became Republican about 1965. So if he switched, it would be back to his original party.

[Darlin']

OH GAG, Landrieu is speaking to her supporters.

[laconic]

Fletcher should have won hands-down. I know nothing about him but I do know that the four Republicans who were in the Nov. 6th race in this district got 68 PERCENT OF THE VOTE collectively and that the Dem winner tonite got only 29 PERCENT OF THE VOTE in November! Somebody must have run a VERY POOR campaign.

[Ben Bolt]

No matter who wins the Constitution takes another hit .

[Charles Henrickson]

Let's just hope Terrell didn't quit too thune. :-)

[Hermann the Cherusker]

Every year we hear about how some Republican is drawing black votes, and perhaps Mayor Bloomberg did last year.

Bloomberg won a surprising amount of Hispanic votes in NYC, but not black votes.

The New York Times puts out a great election edition the Thursday after every election, always including an ethnic map and a voting map by precinct for the whole city. Very educational.

[Bogey78O]

Notice the lack of diversity now that Landrieu has won.

The negroes can get back in the field now.

[marajade]

Terrell almost beat her... I mean come on... The Republican party hasn't had a senate seat in 140 years... I think she did great considering the historic trend...

[Theodore R.]

So what do Catholic care about? Getting their next paycheck and food on the table, or just what?

[nicmarlo]

I hope Dr. Day doesn't lurk on the forum! lol!

ROFL.....she better not!!!

[KQQL]

LA voters are stupid......not W..Plus Terrell kept changing her answers on abortion

[BerniesFriend]

As I have already stated on another post I apologize for my stupid stupid state..we just voted ourselves into the minority..Lott said Mary is OFF the apropriation committee..she claims she wants to help the sugar farmer..now the white house will go out of their way to send sugar wholesale into the U.S...for we now have no senators in the majority..sorry to the rest of the country..

[Verginius Rufus]

Black men were allowed to vote in 5 Northern states by 1865. Free black men were eligible to vote in Tennessee until a new state constitution was adopted in the 1830s. I believe there were other cases of slave states allowing free black men to vote.

In Huck Finn, Chapter VI, Pap has a fit when he hears that a free black man visiting his town is eligible to vote back home in Ohio ("they said he was a p'fessor in a college, and could talk all kinds of languages, and knowed everything. And that ain't the wust. They said he could vote, when he was at home. Well, that let me out. Thinks I, what is this country a-coming to?")

[BenR2]

Maybe I'm rusty on my history. Where were blacks allowed to vote pre-1865? They weren't even considered citizens, as I understand it, slave or not. That's what Dred Scott was all about.

Maybe we are BOTH rusty, but the 3/5ths thing applied to SLAVES. Free blacks could not only vote, but some, actually OWNED black slaves. (Yep!)

There was not that much discrimination on the basis of RACE, per se, until AFTER the Civil War, if I am not mistaken, which is when all the Jim Crow laws were passed, creating "colored only" drinking fountains and restrooms, etc.

Before the issue was: slave or free, AND land-owner or not, AND male or not. LOL.

I am open to being critiqued on any historical inaccuracies I may have conveyed. However, there are 3000 documented cases of free blacks owning black slaves in this country. Of that point, I am certain.

[Hermann the Cherusker]

Is the Catholic Church going to demand that she keep her word to them? They should excommunicate her if she does not.

Well, they would, but there is a problem with our Bishops. You see, part of the Consecration Ceremony for a Catholic Bishop includes the removal of his spine ...