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Bush Marks End of Ramadan, Visits Mosque (Islam brings hope and comfort)
ap ^ | 12/5/2002 | SCOTT LINDLAW

Posted on 12/05/2002 3:37:52 PM PST by TLBSHOW

By SCOTT LINDLAW, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - With Muslims worldwide growing more suspicious of the United States, President Bush (news - web sites) marked the end of the Islamic holy month of Ramadan with a visit Thursday to a mosque.

"The spirit behind this holiday is a reminder that Islam brings hope and comfort to more than 1 billion people worldwide," Bush said. "Islam affirms God's justice and insists on man's moral responsibility."

Bush left his shoes at the door, in keeping with the practice of the Islamic Center of Washington, a national center for Muslim culture and prayer. He also had visited six days after the terrorist attacks last year.

Back then, with a surge in hate crimes against Muslims in the United States, Bush was trying to defuse Americans' anger against Islam. Today, he has a different problem — increased hostility by Muslims around the world against America.

In an international survey released Wednesday, the Pew Global Attitudes Project found the image of the United States is slipping worldwide, and particularly in Middle Eastern countries with large Muslim populations. Large percentages of Muslim respondents in several countries said they believe suicide bomb attacks are a justifiable defense of Islam.

On Wednesday, Bush blamed America's tarnished image among Muslims on "propaganda machines (that) are cranked up in the international community that paints our country in a bad light."

The growing animosity comes at a time when Bush is trying to rally the world against terrorism and gather allies for possible military action against Iraq.

Inside the ornate mosque, Bush offered an explanation of the Muslim feast of Eid al-Fitr, which marks the end of Ramadan, and renewed his defense of Islam.

Bush's speech was directed to a national and international audience. There was virtually no one inside except journalists and his staff. A few mosque officials stood next to Bush as he spoke.

"Over the past month, Muslims have fasted, taking no food or water during daylight hours, in order to refocus their minds on faith and redirect their hearts to charity," Bush said.

"Muslims worldwide have stretched out a hand of mercy to those in need, charity tables at which the poor can break their fast line the streets of cities and towns, and gifts of food and clothing and money are distributed to ensure that all share in God's abundance," he said.

From the Muslim event, Bush officially opened the Christmas season at the White House by lighting a Christmas tree just outside the gates.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; islam; muslims; terrorist
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To: sinkspur
Merry Christmas. This is a time when the followers of Christ celebrate His birth. You are good entertainment I might add.
381 posted on 12/06/2002 10:20:56 AM PST by ApesForEvolution
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To: MoGalahad
From our point of view you are the stupid one.

Got a frog in your pocket?

382 posted on 12/06/2002 10:22:12 AM PST by sinkspur
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To: ApesForEvolution
Brain dead, cool head.
Great pun!

Here's another saying:

"A witty saying proves nothing."
-- Voltaire

383 posted on 12/06/2002 10:26:32 AM PST by NEWwoman
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To: TLBSHOW
Ugh! I wish Bush would knock off this PC crap.
384 posted on 12/06/2002 10:31:30 AM PST by MEGoody
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To: sinkspur
Well, it IS his/her e-mail to do as he/she pleases. LOL
385 posted on 12/06/2002 10:38:12 AM PST by MEGoody
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To: TLBSHOW; F16Fighter; Black Agnes; weikel
The real problem here is wahhabism; the saudi brand of islam. Out of 1 billion muslims, the arabs are only 300 mill; the saudis 30 mill or so. But their wealth gives them a power and influence completely outofwhack with their numbers.

Bush's failure, so far, to call the Saudis and their fanatical wahhabi clerics to the mat is responsible for all these discussions about real/fake/justlikeus muslims.

For this, the administration has to bear the blame for not correctly identifying the enemy.

It's not all muslims; it primarily arabs, pakistanis and the brutal cult of salafi wahhabism that is exceedingly puritanical, misogynistic and out to lunch in general.

When the wahhabs took over Saudi, they wrecked all pre wahhabi art, gardens. They've slaughtered other muslims all over the world.

What is shameful is the Administration placing wahhabi sponsored clerics and institutions front and center and ignoring the others.

Until we identify the enemy, these inane discussions will continue, ripping America apart.


386 posted on 12/06/2002 10:55:29 AM PST by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
The real problem here is wahhabism; the saudi brand of islam. Out of 1 billion muslims, the arabs are only 300 mill; the saudis 30 mill or so. But their wealth gives them a power and influence completely outofwhack with their numbers.

Big bump.

387 posted on 12/06/2002 11:03:05 AM PST by weikel
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To: weikel
They kill Jews. They kill Americans. They kill Australians who had the temerity to push rampaging Indonesian paramilitaries out of East Timor, a predominantly Catholic fledgling state. They kill Kenyan dancers and civil employees. They kill French engineers. They blow up skyscrapers and bring down airplanes. They do all this with Allah's name on their lips.

And some day, I fear they'll come for you.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1035775085657&call_page=TS_News&call_pageid=968332188492&call_pagepath=News/News

388 posted on 12/06/2002 11:10:27 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: marajade
Yea
389 posted on 12/06/2002 12:01:46 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Zack Nguyen
What I posted is correct. It was in regard to:

And I said:

Though the Founders may have been Christian and that fact is reflected in our system of law they effectively gave all religions equality, legitimacy and equal protection with the first amendment.

Honestly, I am probably one of the only people on FR who would love to live in a Christian Theocracy. I think it's the highest standard for society.

Unfortunately men are inherently corrupt and thus are incapable of implementing or administrating such a society. History is full of their failed attempts.

The founders decision to short circuit man's corruption was (imo) the proper choice. It equalizes all religions in the eyes of the state and as such should be no suprise that the words of the President reflect this.

Of course they aren't equal in God's eyes, and I don't think Dubya is implying that. (After all, he did profess to be a Christian during the campaign) It's just this way we don't all have to kill each other over it.

390 posted on 12/06/2002 12:33:14 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: Jhoffa_
Though the Founders may have been Christian and that fact is reflected in our system of law they effectively gave all religions equality, legitimacy and equal protection with the first amendment.

Again, I disagree. Congress is not supposed to make a law establishing a church, or restricting people's free practice. That is all. Many states had official churches at the Founding. Congress even appropriated money to print Bibles.

The 1st amendment provides protection for all religions, but nowhere did the Founders ask our political leaders to treat all religions as equally true and legitimate. We are simply to refrain from persecuting them. This is the Christian thing to do. We can live at peace with others while vigorously evangelizing them.

But clearly the Constitution does not require the President to publicly acknowledge Islam as co-equal, nor does it force him to engage in their ceremonies.

The Founders assumed, or hoped, that Christianity would remain the chief influence within government, and that Christians would be salt and light in the halls of power.

I would submit that a country is on its way down when its leaders cannot, or are not allowed to, discern between what is clearly true and what is clearly not, and judge accordingly.

Thankfully, the only time you will live under a Theocracy is when Jesus Christ returns to rule.

391 posted on 12/06/2002 1:06:33 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: Zack Nguyen

Yes. That's Equal protection and inherent legitimacy as far as the Constitution is concerned.

No, Dubya is not required to alter his personal view of Islam, honor it or do anything outside protect it in law as stipulated by the Constitution.

392 posted on 12/06/2002 1:36:29 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: swarthyguy
"What is shameful is the Administration placing wahhabi sponsored clerics and institutions front and center and ignoring the others... Until we identify the enemy, these inane discussions will continue, ripping America apart.

Poignant observations worth considering by the Bush Administration IF they can get beyond this Saudi fetish.

393 posted on 12/06/2002 2:54:42 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Miss Marple
"If you atched the White House Christmas Tree lighting, as well as the Menorah lighting and the speech at the mosque, you can have no doubt that he is a Christian."

Ahem..."Lighting" the White House Christmas Tree, a pagan symbol of "life," is hardly a religious observation as is the Menorah Lighting, while Dubya clearly praised the tenets of Islam as a religion.

But here's a suggestion to Dubya: If you can praise Islam as the "Religion of Peace," you shouldn't have much of a problem praising 'Christianity' as the "Religion of the Truth and the Light.

394 posted on 12/06/2002 3:50:16 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter
Did you go to the White House web site and read what he said? No? I suggest you do so. They also had religious songs, including an opera singer who spoke of how Christ had touched her heart. The tree was lit to the music of "Joy to the World."

I trust that since you believe that the Christmas tree is still pagan and therefore non-Christian, that you do not have one in your home.

And for your information, I do not believe that Islam is anything but a false religion. I am a Christian who believes in salvation through Christ.

However, I do not expect that the President should state so from his position as leader of all of America. He is the President of Muslim and Jewish Americans as well as my President, and yours.

395 posted on 12/06/2002 4:21:58 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
"I trust that since you believe that the Christmas tree is still pagan and therefore non-Christian, that you do not have one in your home."

The point is, as symbolism goes, the Christmas Tree is not "Christian."

"And for your information, I do not believe that Islam is anything but a false religion. I am a Christian who believes in salvation through Christ."

Amen Sister...

"However, I do not expect that the President should state so from his position as leader of all of other America. He is the President of Muslim and Jewish Americans as well as my President, and yours."

Agreed. OTOH if the President is going to praise Islam in a religious context, it is expected for him to do so with ALL religions as well, but thus opening up a can of worms.

Moreover, if there is any God that ought to praised at the WH, there is our Founding Fathers' historical precedence that it is the God of the Bible who should be praised. NOT some pagan moon god.

396 posted on 12/06/2002 5:21:23 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: CWRWinger
Bush is a religious prostitute. He believes all religions are equal.

No, he's the president of ALL the American people, not just the Christians. Unless you want to live in the Christian equivalant of Iran.

397 posted on 12/06/2002 5:25:01 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: F16Fighter
bttt
398 posted on 12/06/2002 5:26:10 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Miss Marple
And for your information, I do not believe that Islam is anything but a false religion. I am a Christian who believes in salvation through Christ.

On that we agree!
399 posted on 12/06/2002 5:31:39 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: ApesForEvolution
Publicly posting private communications sent in confidence reveals your lack of integrity.

Your cheap attempt to discredit the sender of the communications demonstrates your lack of confidence in the validity of your argument.

If you have any shame, you will apologize.
400 posted on 12/06/2002 5:46:18 PM PST by Search4Truth
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