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Australia warning terrorists - Prime minister backs pre-emptive strikes on neighboring attackers
Associated Press ^ | December 2, 2002 | Associated Press Staff

Posted on 12/02/2002 4:20:30 AM PST by MeekOneGOP


Australia warning terrorists

Prime minister backs pre-emptive strikes on neighboring attackers

12/02/2002

Associated Press

SYDNEY, Australia - Prime Minister John Howard said Sunday that he was prepared to act against terrorists in neighboring Asian countries and that the U.N. charter should be changed to allow nations to strike pre-emptively against terrorists planning to attack them.

His comments were opposed by other governments across Asia.

With a modern air force and experienced special forces, Australia has one of the most powerful militaries in its region.

Mr. Howard's comments came as his nation observes how Southeast Asian countries deal with Islamic militants since the Oct. 12 bombings on Indonesia's resort island of Bali. The attack left nearly 200 people dead, almost half of them Australian tourists.

The al-Qaeda-linked terrorist group Jemaah Islamiyah has been blamed for the Bali attacks.

Though dozens of suspected Jemaah Islamiyah operatives have been jailed, many more are still believed to be operational. Australia has boosted security at its embassies overseas and warned that terrorists may also attack within Australia. Last week, Australia closed its mission in the Philippines, citing a specific and credible threat.

"It stands to reason that if you believe that somebody was going to launch an attack on your country, either of a conventional kind or a terrorist kind, and you had a capacity to stop it and there was no alternative other than to use that capacity, then of course you would have to use it," Mr. Howard told Australian television's Channel Nine.

Asked if that meant taking pre-emptive action against terrorists in a neighboring country, Mr. Howard said: "Oh yes. I think any Australian prime minister would."

But he added, "There's no situation that I'm aware of at the moment that raises that issue."

In Jakarta, Indonesian Foreign Ministry spokesman Marti Natalegawa said Australia did not have the right to launch military strikes in other countries.

"States cannot willy-nilly flout international law and norms," he said.

Indonesian legislator Alvin Lie termed Mr. Howard's comment "very dangerous" and said he "should learn to control himself."

Australia, a longtime ally of the United States, deployed special forces to Afghanistan last year to help U.S. troops root out Taliban and al-Qaeda remnants.

Mr. Howard said the U.N. Charter should be altered to allow member countries to pre-emptively strike at terrorists. He said the document was developed when conflicts were defined in terms of nations attacking nations.

"That's different now. What you're getting is non-state terrorism which is just as devastating and potentially even more so," he said. "All I'm saying, I think many people are saying, is that maybe the body of international law has to catch up with the new reality."


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KEYWORDS: australia; johnhoward; preemptivestrikes; waronterror

In Jakarta, Indonesian Foreign Ministry spokesman Marti Natalegawa said Australia did not have the right to launch military strikes in other countries.

"States cannot willy-nilly flout international law and norms," he said.

Indonesian legislator Alvin Lie termed Mr. Howard's comment "very dangerous" and said he "should learn to control himself."

Who are these guys protecting anyway? Certainly not Australians. Possibly Al-Qaeda folks? Quick, someone call the ACLU or their Indonesian equivalent.....
1 posted on 12/02/2002 4:20:30 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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Australia warning terrorists - Prime minister
backs pre-emptive strikes on neighboring attackers



Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my Australia ping list!. . .don't be shy.

2 posted on 12/02/2002 4:23:17 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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Australia warning terrorists - Prime minister
backs pre-emptive strikes on neighboring attackers



Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my General Interest ping list!. . .don't be shy.

3 posted on 12/02/2002 4:24:23 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
It seems the West is slowly awakening to the problem. Several European nations have started limiting and scrutinizing illegal immigration (mostly from ME/Islamic countries), many non-Islamic nations face daily threats from Radical Islamists, and now Australia threatening pre-emption.

The PC/Liberalized West has allowed the situation to fester unfettered. Now they (we) are having to rethink the world stage. History tells us of several times when the non-Islamic world had to confront the Radical Islamic world.

We can see from the manner in which Bin Laden used Afghanistan--driving it from the 15th century back to the 7th century, from the bombings at various locations throughout the world, from the acts of terrorism and murder, that the Radical Islamists are not interested in progressing civilization. Rather they are bent on destroying, not building; driving peoples/cultures back into the 7th century, not progressing the arts and sciences; killing and murdering. Reports say 95% of the worldly conflicts involve Radical Islamists.

The slow awakening of the non-Islamic world may be long overdue--but hopefully, not too late.

4 posted on 12/02/2002 4:38:12 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: MeeknMing
Please add me to your list.
5 posted on 12/02/2002 5:18:39 AM PST by buccaneer81
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To: TomGuy
Thanks for the great post, FRiend !!
6 posted on 12/02/2002 5:19:03 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: buccaneer81
Tis done, FRiend. Thanks !
7 posted on 12/02/2002 5:29:51 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
These countries whining about their sovereignty both burns me up and concerns me not in the least. It burns me up because they willingly turn a blind eye to terrorists in their midst; it concerns me not in the least because if the Aussies act, it will be 100% justified.

If a sovereign nation will not keep rogue elements from attacking other sovereign nations, then those threatened have every right to preemptively attack those negligent states.
8 posted on 12/02/2002 5:30:31 AM PST by twntaipan
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To: MeeknMing
"States cannot willy-nilly flout international law and norms," he said.

Willy-nilly? Does it occur to this person that terrorists "flout" international law all the time and that states must defend their citizens? The Australian got it right, there isn't one law for states and no law for international terrorists or states that harbor them.

9 posted on 12/02/2002 6:10:50 AM PST by xJones
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To: MeeknMing
Thanks for the heads up!
10 posted on 12/02/2002 7:24:29 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: twntaipan
The civilized world has a new Hero in John Howard. Free people all over the world have been threatened with Islamic terrorists. Some people are "chicken" to identify the savages with Muslims, because they deem oil more precious than life! Shame! Bush is a wuss when he says that Islam is a religion of pleace. He does not like much, does he?
11 posted on 12/02/2002 12:17:07 PM PST by tessalu
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To: MeeknMing
How dare Australia defend herself from an oncoming attack??

We should learn to be more multicultural and more tolerant of Jihadists. Then we should take a look at our policies that make people hate us.

Never act, only react.
12 posted on 12/02/2002 12:20:11 PM PST by Guillermo
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To: MeeknMing
ON ping list thanx.
13 posted on 12/02/2002 8:30:07 PM PST by rocknotsand
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To: rocknotsand
You're on, FRiend...thanks !
14 posted on 12/03/2002 3:01:36 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
Please keep me on the list!
We need to weed out more "Baktirari" types of illegals who are in Oz.(Perhaps they might be sleepers).
15 posted on 12/07/2002 12:43:46 AM PST by cavador
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To: cavador
Will do, FRiend. Thanks.
16 posted on 12/07/2002 8:43:39 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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