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To: DoughtyOne
Let me ask you something. When you care about someone, do you hold them to a higher or lower standard? When raising my kids I didn't give a darn how other children turned out, mine were going to toe the line.

Yes I did expect more from mine than I did from others.  And they haven't dissapointed me either.

We have the President, House and Senate we want. Now we don't care what they do? Right? I can't believe it, but the anser is "yes" for some who call themselves Conservatives.

That is the part that is hard for me to understand.  Why people vote and then just sit back I don't know.  They won, now is the time to make our feelings know, not sit back and relax.

Immigration out of control from the middle-east? No problem. Immigration out of control on our southern border? No problem.  Folks actually try to pass off that they believe this. I know they don't. They couldn't. But they can't be honest enough to admit we have a problem. What a sad time in America this may turn out to be if our opportunity to correct problems passes with no action taken.

The republicans have a golden oppertunity, but they need to deliver while they have it.  They have no excuse not to.  They have it all.  Yea I already hear we don't have a big enough margine in the senate.  I guess that will be the excuse dejour untill 2004.

WarHawk42

481 posted on 12/01/2002 7:12:09 PM PST by WarHawk42
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To: WarHawk42
The republicans have a golden oppertunity, but they need to deliver while they have it.  They have no excuse not to.  They have it all.  Yea I already hear we don't have a big enough margine in the senate.  I guess that will be the excuse dejour untill 2004.

I'm sorry that you can not seem to comprehend reality, even you say you know it. The republicans do NOT have the Senate. Even pretending that we don't have Rinos who may end up voting with the Demodogs outright, and pretending that Breaux (sp?) and Miller may be counted as Dinos on many cases for the president, there is virtually nothing that can be done with only 54 Senate votes against concerted opposition. The only hope the President has is that such a stand by the Demodogs will slaughter them at the polls in '04 and '06 and beyond. Any attitude such as you have expressed that he and conservatives can somehow force their will in the Congress in the present circumstances will doom that possibility and any hope of EVER gaining passage of an even modest conservative agenda.

Get used to it: a few items may be able to pass the present Senate, but Lott and the President will have to promise some liberal agenda items be passed, or they will not even get those few done. This IS the way our country works. (Recall that when LBJ passed the horrifying bills that really crucified this country he had something like a 68-32 split in the Senate.) Until there are a sufficient number (read that as 60, for my purposes) of conservatives, not Republicans, in the Senate, very small steps will have to be slowly taken to reverse the political situation in this country.

Anyone who has such unrealistic, overly high expectations, such as those you expressed here, I suspect of being a Demodog (or demagogic libertarian) themselves. It is exactly the tactics which were being employed by D'ashole and the others of his ilk in an attempt to discredit the President by saying 'he failed to do...' when the blame for that was squarely in their lap.

The Republicans do have a golden opportunity, but that opportunity this year is not in passing a conservative agenda, but in solidifying the trend toward a more conservative government which will allow us at some time in the future can pass a conservative agenda, or at least roll back the leftist agenda which has been enacted. That golden opportunity will be squandered by overreaching and expecting too much, and it is exactly what the demodogs (and libertarians) are hoping for.

705 posted on 12/02/2002 4:03:36 AM PST by AFPhys
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